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hondo in seattle All Pro

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Maybe Shula is part of the reason Dorsey was fired.   Maybe Dorsey wasn't taking input from Shula (or Brady).  

 

So maybe McD fired Dorsey for more than what we were all seeing on the field.  Maybe Shula, Brady, and others mentioned their frustrations with Dorsey to McD.

 

We don't know.  

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  On 11/14/2023 at 8:26 PM, Comebackkid said:

He got fired in Carolina with Dorsey

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And their whole coaching staff. We’ve fired good assistants before when dumping a bad HC, not much to read into

  On 11/14/2023 at 8:28 PM, hondo in seattle said:

Maybe Shula is part of the reason Dorsey was fired.   Maybe Dorsey wasn't taking input from Shula (or Brady).  

 

So maybe McD fired Dorsey for more than what we were all seeing on the field.  Maybe Shula, Brady, and others mentioned their frustrations with Dorsey to McD.

 

We don't know.  

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I think it’s nearly guaranteed that there are things that went on behind the scenes that we don’t know about that also played into this. 

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  On 11/14/2023 at 8:29 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

And their whole coaching staff. We’ve fired good assistants before when dumping a bad HC, not much to read into

I think it’s nearly guaranteed that there are things that went on behind the scenes that we don’t know about that also played into this. 

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I think it’s nearly guaranteed that the dumpster fire we are seeing on the field is more important than secret, hidden behind-the-scenes stuff

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  On 11/14/2023 at 6:40 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

He lends knowledge.

 

I actually thought he could get the OC, has had several good seasons with different QBs. 

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I’m surprised it wasn’t him getting OC too since McD is very familiar with him. Though aside from Cam’s psycho 2015 season where the offense was ranked first in points for, he never had another top 10 offense in 10 other seasons as an NFL OC.


I’m not sure Brady is going to be too successful bc he was bad with Carolina but maybe he has untapped potential. His LSU offense was amazing but it had Joe Burrow and the two best receivers in the NFL (Chase and Jefferson) so that made life much easier lol

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  On 11/14/2023 at 8:40 PM, LEBills said:


I’m surprised it wasn’t him getting OC too since McD is very familiar with him. Though aside from Cam’s psycho 2015 season where the offense was ranked first in points for, he never had another top 10 offense in 10 other seasons as an NFL OC.


I’m not sure Brady is going to be too successful bc he was bad with Carolina but maybe he has untapped potential. His LSU offense was amazing but it had Joe Burrow and the two best receivers in the NFL (Chase and Jefferson) so that made life much easier lol

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Daboll was terrible everywhere he went before here.  QB play is usually the big factor.  Brady i felt was originally brought in as the potential dorsey replacement if things went well enough that he got head coaching interviews.  He now gets a trial run as the season has shifted into preservation mode.  

 

I think his role is helping design plays and the playbook, implementing plays within the walkthrough that you want to use, etc.  So i don't think he's doing a very good job at the moment, but we don't really know whats going on there so its all speculative. 

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  On 11/14/2023 at 8:33 PM, Chaos said:

I think it’s nearly guaranteed that the dumpster fire we are seeing on the field is more important than secret, hidden behind-the-scenes stuff

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I think this is true.   But I do think both contributed.


If McD thought that Dorsey was doing everything right and getting the most out of the flawed offensive roster, Dorsey probably would not have been fired.  I'm guessing that McD sees it differently.  Dorsey was doing something wrong behind the scenes.  Maybe bad relationships with players.  Maybe not coaching Josh hard enough.  Maybe not taking input from Shula and Brady.  Maybe not following McD's guidance...  

 

I do think the decline of the offense's performance was the main reason.  But I think McD saw/heard other things that made him lose faith in Dorsey.  

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  On 11/14/2023 at 6:43 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

I actually thought we might name him Interim HC if Terry cleaned house this morning.

 

Shula has enough experience to be interim CEO and handle the details.

Brady to OC

Bobby Babich to DC

 

Oh well, at least we got Dorsey out.

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Just because Dorsey got canned doesn’t mean no one else is very much on the hot seat! 

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