Road to the Playoffs

[CodeMonkey]

Man the talk sure turns around quick here after beating a team with no OL and a pretty bad QB. From fire everyone to playoffs

But the truth of the matter is, the Bills hold their destiny in their own hands. Iggles, KC, Cowgirls, then finishing up with two AFCE games.  

It's up to them to put up or get some early tee times..

 

[Scott7975]

26 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

I think we need to win the Division to get in. So we need to be 1 game behind Miami before we play them in week 18. That’s unlikely but it’s doable. Can’t lose another AFC game if we want a chance at the wild card though. That means W’s against Miami/NE/KC/Chargers

I’m counting on Miami’s usual December swoon but they look much better this year unfortunately.

 

Although they pulled it out against the Raiders, they looked not so good IMO.  If the Raiders had any semblance of offense, Miami would have gotten smoked or at the very least lost.

27 minutes ago, mannc said:

It would be sadly ironic, given all the injuries this teams is fighting through, that their precious bye week might come after they are effectively eliminated from playoff contention...another poor McDermott decision (he had the option of taking the bye week immediately after the London game).  

 

I don't see how that really changes anything.  The guys we lost in London are not coming back either way. The guys we lost in other games weren't just nursing booboo's that got worse.  They got hurt in the games we played.

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

 

 

I don't see how that really changes anything.  The guys we lost in London are not coming back either way. The guys we lost in other games weren't just nursing booboo's that got worse.  They got hurt in the games we played.

So you don't think the Bills could have used a bye week sometime over the past month or so? 

[DrBob806]

11 hours ago, Warcodered said:

Haven't they won more games without him than with him?

Watson was 5-1 as a starter. Granted, one of those games he only played a quarter (vs Colts)

[Scott7975]

2 minutes ago, mannc said:

So you don't think the Bills could have used a bye week sometime over the past month or so? 

 

Sure?  I just don't see how it changes anything with our current injuries.  Now we have it after a physical game against the Eagles.  Can get some rest and some game planning going for our remaining schedule of the Chiefs, Bolts, Cowboys, Pats, and Miami.  If we make the playoffs then we have the most rest of anyone outside the 1 seed.

[mannc]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Sure?  I just don't see how it changes anything with our current injuries.  Now we have it after a physical game against the Eagles.  Can get some rest and some game planning going for our remaining schedule of the Chiefs, Bolts, Cowboys, Pats, and Miami.  If we make the playoffs then we have the most rest of anyone outside the 1 seed.

But if we lose to Philly, it's pretty much over anyway

[DrBob806]

37 minutes ago, mannc said:

It would be sadly ironic, given all the injuries this teams is fighting through, that their precious bye week might come after they are effectively eliminated from playoff contention...another poor McDermott decision (he had the option of taking the bye week immediately after the London game).  

Really? I thoght the NFL schedule was computer-generated on BYE weeks? 

 

It seems that every NFL team's BYE fluctuates on a history. In other words, for "parity sake," it rotates to "early season BYE," then "mid season BYE," then "late season BYE." Never heard of a coach/team influencing a schedule.

[SCBills]

9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Although they pulled it out against the Raiders, they looked not so good IMO.  If the Raiders had any semblance of offense, Miami would have gotten smoked or at the very least lost.

 

I don't see how that really changes anything.  The guys we lost in London are not coming back either way. The guys we lost in other games weren't just nursing booboo's that got worse.  They got hurt in the games we played.

 

Everything changes if the Bills can get a win in Philly.

 

There's still talent on this defense, but they need to get healthy for the stretch run.  It hasn't just been the losses of Jones, Milano and Tre... it's been that, plus constantly missing other guys for a game or two and/or guys playing through injury rendering them far less effective.  

 

When healthy, I don't accept that this Defense can't at least be solid:

 

Floyd - Rousseau - Epenesa (Von, Shaq)

 

Oliver - Joseph - Phillips (Settle, Poona)

 

Bernard - Johnson (Dodson, Williams, Lewis, Neal)

 

Douglas - Benford (Jackson)

 

Hyde - Poyer (Rapp?, Hamlin, Lewis)

 

That defense I just listed has 3 above average EDGE rushers, an elite DT, a really good MLB, two solid corners and a solid Safety duo.

 

I'm not of the mindset that we should be absolving them of any blame because "injuries" when they still have the ability *if healthy* to put those guys out there. 

[mannc]

Just now, DrBob806 said:

Really? I thoght the NFL schedule was computer-generated on BYE weeks? 

 

It seems that every NFL team's BYE fluctuates on a history. In other words, for "parity sake," it rotates to "early season BYE," then "mid season BYE," then "late season BYE." Never heard of a coach/team influencing a schedule.

Teams that played games overseas were given the option of having their bye the following week or later in the season.  McDermott chose to have it later.

[Scott7975]

8 minutes ago, mannc said:

But if we lose to Philly, it's pretty much over anyway

 

I wouldn't say its over but yeah we pretty much have no room for mistakes.  If we had the bye after the Jags game how does that change?

[Scott7975]

12 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Everything changes if the Bills can get a win in Philly.

 

There's still talent on this defense, but they need to get healthy for the stretch run.  It hasn't just been the losses of Jones, Milano and Tre... it's been that, plus constantly missing other guys for a game or two and/or guys playing through injury rendering them far less effective.  

 

When healthy, I don't accept that this Defense can't at least be solid:

 

Floyd - Rousseau - Epenesa (Von, Shaq)

 

Oliver - Joseph - Phillips (Settle, Poona)

 

Bernard - Johnson (Dodson, Williams, Lewis, Neal)

 

Douglas - Benford (Jackson)

 

Hyde - Poyer (Rapp?, Hamlin, Lewis)

 

That defense I just listed has 3 above average EDGE rushers, an elite DT, a really good MLB, two solid corners and a solid Safety duo.

 

I'm not of the mindset that we should be absolving them of any blame because "injuries" when they still have the ability *if healthy* to put those guys out there. 

 

The defense has been solid all season IMO.  Not great like they would have been but solid.  The offense was just not pulling its weight.  Last night the D had a great game but that was the Jets.  What we need to see is our O play like last night every week.  Maybe even a little better.

 

While I do agree we lost two games when the D gave up game winning drives, the offense put them in position that those game winning drives mattered.  If the offense did anything at all in the rest of the game, they wouldn't have.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

35 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said:

Man the talk sure turns around quick here after beating a team with no OL and a pretty bad QB. From fire everyone to playoffs

But the truth of the matter is, the Bills hold their destiny in their own hands. Iggles, KC, Cowgirls, then finishing up with two AFCE games.  

It's up to them to put up or get some early tee times..

 

 

not hearing that from me.

 

I'm predicting 0 for the next 3 and season over. Enjoyed last night for what it was, a win over a team that has literally no offense. I'm not fooling myself into believing it's anything other than that.

 

[Captain Hindsight]

20 minutes ago, DrBob806 said:

Really? I thoght the NFL schedule was computer-generated on BYE weeks? 

 

It seems that every NFL team's BYE fluctuates on a history. In other words, for "parity sake," it rotates to "early season BYE," then "mid season BYE," then "late season BYE." Never heard of a coach/team influencing a schedule.

Every team submits preferences. I know the Bills in the past wanted more home game in September/October because the late cold games have a hard time selling for example. They did ask the teams playing in London for their bye week preferences too. I think part of that is also the NFL experiments continuing 

[RiotAct]

3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

The defense has been solid all season IMO.  Not great like they would have been but solid.  The offense was just not pulling its weight.  Last night the D had a great game but that was the Jets.  What we need to see is our O play like last night every week.  Maybe even a little better.

 

While I do agree we lost two games when the D gave up game winning drives, the offense put them in position that those game winning drives mattered.  If the offense did anything at all in the rest of the game, they wouldn't have.

it’s amazing how the defense continues to lose guys yet still find ways to lock down the other team (or at least severely limit the danage).

[DrBob806]

21 minutes ago, mannc said:

Teams that played games overseas were given the option of having their bye the following week or later in the season.  McDermott chose to have it later.

Ok, that makes sense. Wow, a Goodell policy making sense lol.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

40 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said:

Man the talk sure turns around quick here after beating a team with no OL and a pretty bad QB. From fire everyone to playoffs

But the truth of the matter is, the Bills hold their destiny in their own hands. Iggles, KC, Cowgirls, then finishing up with two AFCE games.  

It's up to them to put up or get some early tee times..

 

That’s kind of missing the point imo…even when our team is great that jets defense has had our number and we absolutely dominated them.  That’s the best performance we’ve had against the jets defense in years.  I wouldn’t take too much out of what our defense was able to accomplish for the reasons you said though 

[mannc]

21 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I wouldn't say its over but yeah we pretty much have no room for mistakes.  If we had the bye after the Jags game how does that change?

Impossible to say, because the entire schedule would have changed, but safe to say that a bye at that point would have been better than no bye until brink of elimination.

[Scott7975]

16 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

And now?

 

OK I checked.  The Bills still do not control their own destiny. They can win out and still not make it and there are a bunch of ways the Bills would not make it even losing just one game.  So as I said after the Broncos loss and still remains true today... our best path is to win the division.  If we don't win the division, we need help.  You keep fighting that, but I am sorry it is true.

Edited November 20, 2023 by Scott7975

[mannc]

Just now, Scott7975 said:

 

OK I checked.  The Bills still do not control their own destiny. They can win out and still not make it and there are a bunch of ways the Bills would not make it even losing just one game.  So as I said after the Broncos loss and still remains true today... our best path is to win the division.  If we don't win the division, we need help.

Go Jets

[Scott7975]

11 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

it’s amazing how the defense continues to lose guys yet still find ways to lock down the other team (or at least severely limit the danage).

 

It really is honestly.  For a lot of flack that McD gets including from me, he actually is running a decent defense considering all the injuries.

4 minutes ago, mannc said:

Impossible to say, because the entire schedule would have changed, but safe to say that a bye at that point would have been better than no bye until brink of elimination.

 

I don't think that is safe to say at all.  It's only safe to say if you can find reason for it and so far you haven't convinced me.