boyst Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Process said: Jets chiefs and cowboys in the next 4. 3 of the best defenses in the league with a brand new OC. That's tough. Big question mark on why the change came now before this stretch. Indictment of McChump What did we see yesterday that was so much different than the other games? If anything he called a better game last night. Now heading into when it matters most, against our hardest stretch he put so much of task ahead of us that it is damn near impossible to recover. This is poor management. The writing didn't just appear to fire him - it should have been done weeks ago if it was potential. 2 2 Quote
Tommy Callahan Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 He got fired for not running it enough. is known for a spread offense. but utilizes a lot of screens. Quote
GoBills808 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 I don't think they're going to install much more than what's already in the playbook The play calling might be different but I imagine overall it will conceptually look pretty similar 1 1 Quote
DeltaDigital Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: He got fired for not running it enough. is known for a spread offense. but utilizes a lot of screens. maybe he can figure out how to use our 9.5milliondollar tiny guy #11 in the screen game that has eluded, FOREVER. 4 1 Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Hopefully he does less short yardage shotgun, more Philly Specials, and maybe not so many plays where 2-3 of our WRs are running routes in the same spot. 1 3 2 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 I don't think much changes. Hoping for the best though. Quote
Tommy Callahan Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said: Hopefully he does less short yardage shotgun, more Philly Specials, and maybe not so many plays where 2-3 of our WRs are running routes in the same spot. From the talk on twitter. he is a fan of bunch formations on one side one receiving option on the other. 1 Quote
Yobogoya! Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, boyst said: Big question mark on why the change came now before this stretch. Indictment of McChump What did we see yesterday that was so much different than the other games? If anything he called a better game last night. Now heading into when it matters most, against our hardest stretch he put so much of task ahead of us that it is damn near impossible to recover. This is poor management. The writing didn't just appear to fire him - it should have been done weeks ago if it was potential. Yeah you'd think he'd at least utilize the bye week for this change, so Brady could tweak and refine the offense at least a bit. Giving him a short week to prepare for that Jets D?? The timing definitely looks like McD is just trying to deflect from last night's performance. Hey, maybe the change invigorates the team for this matchup, but... well, I won't get my hopes up. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 for the love of everything.....please take the route design of Gabe running into double zone coverage along the sideline OUT OF THE PLAYBOOK it seems like every game that exact play is an int. I'm sure every defense is well aware 4 Quote
GustheDog33 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: McD puppet is the correct answer, more Carolina connection. The only connection to Carolina is that they both worked there. They didn't work there at the same time. Brady was there while McDermott was the HC here and had been for several years. Not the connection you're looking for. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, GoBills808 said: I don't think they're going to install much more than what's already in the playbook The play calling might be different but I imagine overall it will conceptually look pretty similar Yep. No team installs an entire new playbook at week 11. I'd be interested to see at the bye whether they tweak some stuff but again it isn't going to be wholesale changes. Just a different guy looking at the call sheet and deciding on the play. We did see when Lynn took over for Roman though that it can lead to an uptick. Because no two people see the way to attack a certain defense exactly the same. I think one of Dorsey's problems this year has been finding a balance with the run game. And I don't mean overall run:pass ratios I mean he has drives where we only run and then drives where we only drop back. I am not sure he has found a flow to his playcalling. 4 1 Quote
CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Im hopeing for a offensive explosion but dont think Mcd wants that. 3 Quote
26TrapDraw Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, Jukester said: Maybe just maybe, he can look at Josh's strengths and get back to those. - Play action from under center - Designed rollouts and QB keepers - Stop making him overthink things and be a dinker - Maybe take a shot downfield once in a while What are you doing Sunday at 1? 1 1 Quote
longtimebillsfan Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Really good discussion about the Bills on the Pat McAfee show. Dan Orlovsky giving good analysis. 1 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Just googled “Joe Brady Shotgun Draw” 2 Quote
Rc2catch Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Brady did a decent job year one in Carolina I thought. Teddy Bridgewater had them in almost every game. Robbie Anderson and DJ Moore I think both had solid seasons that year. Year two it fell off the rails and Rhule scapegoated him. I think year two was Sam Darnold cause they traded away Bridgewater. I think Brady will give Mcdermott what he wants. Which in my opinion is establishing a run game and controlling the clock so the defense isn’t on the field 24/7. I doubt much changes scheme wise but I think he’ll do better calling a game and keeping the offense in rhythm. I do hope this is the end of RPO in Buffalo cause those throws to Gabe always seem to end badly or incomplete. 2 1 Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Short week, so not much. More interested if han he right the ship for the long-term. I'd bench Davis & move Shakir there. Run the offense through Digs, Kincaid, Shakir & Cook. But we'll see what changes he makes. Edited November 14, 2023 by Donuts and Doritos 1 1 Quote
BuffaloBill Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 This article suggests there has been continuing interest in him from other teams. Story suggests he climbed too quickly. Maybe he learned some things to not repeat from his Carolina days. https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/news/joe-brady-is-receiving-interest-for-offensive-coordinator-jobs 1 Quote
GustheDog33 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I don't think they're going to install much more than what's already in the playbook The play calling might be different but I imagine overall it will conceptually look pretty similar I agree!! The biggest thing a coordinator does week to week during the season, except for the bye, is decide which concepts are going into the game plan and where they fit on the play-sheet, mostly situationally. So, the offense is not changing. The plays and formations they have repped are the plays and formations they have. That said, the plays they choose will be different, which might make all of the difference. There is always discussion between the OC and the position coaches regarding the game plan and what is in and what is out. Presumably, McD is in at least some of those meetings. Push back is healthy in those meetings. My guess is there was push back, but McD (rightly) let his OC have the final say. He has now changed the decision maker, we'll see if it gets better. 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, GustheDog33 said: The only connection to Carolina is that they both worked there. They didn't work there at the same time. Brady was there while McDermott was the HC here and had been for several years. Not the connection you're looking for. Look at where Brady went to college and where he got his coaching start: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/BradJo0.htm. 1 1 1 Quote
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