DORSEY FIRED, Joe Brady Interim OC

[Saxum]

2 minutes ago, npeartisgod said:

Actually, IMHO, it was Dorsey who has SO clearly changed JOSH's game this year. It has been a thing of misery to watch week after week. Josh had fun ONCE last night; when he was allowed to RUN into the end zone. He was happy, and the team was happy...Soooo short lived though...

 

Josh is a wild stallion who owner tried to turn into a race horse so races could be run.

 

He reminds me of Dan Marino who was a great thrower but a terrible QB since he could only throw.

[boyst]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

I’m around here and there. I promise to never leave again, apparently it is bad luck!!

we automated your position, you're not needed any longer.

 

i did take it personally, though.

 

i came back and you left.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, DapperCam said:

Edge rusher is also a big hole if Miller doesn’t return to form and we elect to not re-sign Epenesa.

 

We have Rousseau, Jonathan, and Miller signed for next year.

 

True, but there are solutions around as you mentioned. I'm giving AJE and Floyd some of the money that was going to Tre, Poyer, etc.

 

At CB, we can get by with Douglas and Benford, but Douglas is already up there in years, and could possibly shift to Safety.

[UKBillFan]

2 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Yes but Josh did not listen to him.  He tried to have a controlled game and Josh continued with risky high yield throws.

 

Reminds me of Brett Farve - gunslinger.

 

Then Dorsey either could not or did not want to control Josh. And, with the cap set how it is etc., then there's only going to be one fall guy at this stage.

[HoofHearted]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I mean, look at what a joke "mesh" has become even among the Cover1 analysts that it's a huge deal when it actually manages to work (against a crappy Tampa Bay Defense). Yet we still force it. With more horrible results last night.

 

For examples beyond that, you're more qualified to find them than anyone else here so it shouldnt be too hard.

I know what the concepts are that we've thrown interceptions on and they're all different. The only similarity is the area in which the interception occurred. People like to throw around statements on here as if they're fact, but when asked to back those statements up can't - or are unwilling to. There's so much misinformation on this board because people just see something and run with it whether it's true or not.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, npeartisgod said:

I'll just ask it out loud. Did JA actually get some girl pregnant and his GF found out? Is THAT why that playoff game sucked so BADLY?! I know it was a hot rumor, but has it actually been substantiated?

 

No, it's all BS. It's boring in Buffalo and this is what the fans up there do in their free time.

[CNYfan]

The wide receivers coach left.  He should have been OC

[npeartisgod]

1 minute ago, 34-30 said:

Is this what its about...having fun?

For JA it is. every QB is different with a distinct style. When JA is having fun  -- look I know he's a grown ass man paid to do a job, but by "fun", I mean getting out of hid head and ENJOYING the game and just letting things roll with his immense talent; he gets the team on a roll.

 

You can feel it. Mock if you want, but when JA is free to just PLAY the GAME he loves, there is a palpable difference in the product.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, HoofHearted said:

I know what the concepts are that we've thrown interceptions on and they're all different. The only similarity is the area in which the interception occurred. People like to throw around statements on here as if they're fact, but when asked to back those statements up can't - or are unwilling to. There's so much misinformation on this board because people just see something and run with it whether it's true or not.

 

But the conversation wasnt around Interceptions. The quote you responded to asking for examples was regarding Dorsey insisting on running plays and concepts that consistently fail.

 

[npeartisgod]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

No, it's all BS

If you were at that game, as I was, you'd have sensed it. Something was WRONG in paradise. Maybe it was just a shite day for the team, but it was NOT the Bills we had watched until then...

[starrymessenger]

2 hours ago, UKBillFan said:

Utterly no point in sacking Dorsey unless McDermott follows him.

Agree. And I'm especially concerned about McD's input when it comes to hiring a new OC. I tend to doubt that he would want a promising young face for fear that the guy would show him up. 

[UKBillFan]

4 minutes ago, npeartisgod said:

I'll just ask it out loud. Did JA actually get some girl pregnant and his GF found out? Is THAT why that playoff game sucked so BADLY?! I know it was a hot rumor, but has it actually been substantiated?

 

That doesn't explain why everyone else was off. Unless they all met this barmaid and didn't know who was the father.

[HoofHearted]

42 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

I'm not going to pretend that the players aren't without some blame here, but to me it's tiny in comparison to the coaching staff.  

A not insignificant amount of Dorsey's playcalls never worked, and he kept hammering those same calls every game!  He was incapable of self-evaluating and saying "well this play hasn't worked for the guys on the field".  Maybe the plays are awesome for a different set of players or a different QB, I don't know, but I do know that Josh has had similar interceptions for the past few games in a row and Dorsey would stubbornly go right back to them. It's beyond frustrating. 

 

Allen's "I'm executing the plays as called" is very telling. 

@DrDawkinstein I must be a terrible reader.

[davefan66]

4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

As it should be. It's absolutely the biggest hole on the roster. Except maybe Safety. But find someone that can pull double duty the first year if need be.

 

We can still take a WR in the 2nd round. Which would still be by far the highest pick we've used on actually drafting a WR (not including the 1st for Diggs).

Douglas seemed to have a good game last night.  Benford had been good.  Corner may not be the highest priority.  Safety is a bigger problem.  I’d like to see Rapp do more, but Poyer and Hyde are toast I hate to say.

 

If Diggs is gone after this season, WR would be the highest priority.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

2 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

The wide receivers coach left.  He should have been OC

Our WRs are actually better this year minus the guys who can’t learn the Dorsey Offense 

[Beast]

6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Question is - does Beane stay on and is he the one who fires his partner? Or does Pegula fire them both? Does Pegula have the ballz to do that? I'm skeptical.

Don’t know.

Does Terry revel in the accomplishment of breaking the drought and building a contender that never finished its business?

 

We shall see.

[ExWNYer]

Just now, boater said:

So what do we know about Joe Brady? 

 

After all, he was the QB coach when the QB lead the league in interceptions. He was the QB coach when the QB zoned out on the bench.

 

He may have been part of the problem.

 

He was also fired as OC after only one year in NC.

 

He was also Joe Burrow's OC  at LSU.

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, npeartisgod said:

If you were at that game, as I was, you'd have sensed it. Something was WRONG in paradise. Maybe it was just a shite day for the team, but it was NOT the Bills we had watched until then...

 

There was a lot wrong with the mental makeup of the team. You did not sense that "Josh's fiance found out about him knocking up a waitress". You sensed that the team was emotionally exhausted, not having any fun, had been for weeks, and the coaches not only couldnt pull them out of it, but couldnt even get them prepared for the game to be wearing the correct cleats!

[stinky finger]

2 hours ago, Bangarang said:

Matt Smiley is next 

Enough with the fluff. 
 

Cut off the head of this serpent!

 

[Dr.Sack]

6 minutes ago, npeartisgod said:

I'll just ask it out loud. Did JA actually get some girl pregnant and his GF found out? Is THAT why that playoff game sucked so BADLY?! I know it was a hot rumor, but has it actually been substantiated?

What happens off the field can affect what happens on the field.