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1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said:

I think there are major issues between players and McDermott and until he is gone we're just spinning our wheels. I'm fine with giving him the rest of the season because aside from Leslie Frazier there's nobody "on staff" that I would want to take over on an interim basis. But he needs to go, barring some miracle turnaround. 

 

The team peaked at 13 seconds and has gotten worse every year since. Now the wheels are falling off and eventually players are going to start talking, even if it's "anonymous sources" type stuff. 

 

McDermott is done here, the only question is how much time we waste between now and a new voice in the locker room as HC. 

 

 

You just can't clean house mid-season, especially during a short week. That's a move you make in the off season. Plus, no outside coach will talk to you until you have already moved on from the current guy. IMO, this will happen only if they continue to look like crap the rest of the way. We'll see soon enough.

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1 minute ago, TampaBillsJunkie said:

But he has called sh^t plays all season and can't get the offense in a rhythm. 

***** plays don't make you a 1 read QB that throws into double and triple coverage, overthrow your wide open WRs by 5+ yards or drop passes that hit you in the hands.

Those are the reasons our offense can't get into a rhythm, not the playcalls.

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11 minutes ago, appoo said:

The reality here is the Bills offense is far far closer to being elite than it is to being mediocre.  McDermott knows that and it’s why he made the change. 
 

The Bills go up and down the field. But for whatever reason they just can’t score with the same efficiency as they move the ball, and they don’t play complementary football and end up killing their own depleted defense 

Where do turnover and dropped passes fall in all of that. Doesn't player execution fall under your HC?  If we remove even half the turnovers, penalties and dropped passes things look so different right now from a Win/Loss standpoint.

 

At some phase accountability by your HC should take place.

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4 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

I don't understand this take either. Why is making the playoffs 4 out of 6 years with an elite QB while peaking with 1 AFC championship game appearance 3 years ago in which we were blown out and have declined ever since such a big accomplishment?

Take is also makes zero sense. I mean if that’s the case BB would have what 30!more years? Instead it seems he is gone at the end of this year after 3 bad seasons.

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It's going to sound harsh, but Josh cost Dorsey his job. 

 

Dorsey has had plenty of issues, but he didn't make Josh & Co. turn the ball over so many times... It got to the point where fans were saying Josh was throwing the game.

 

Dorsey's gameplan was actually solid last night. Execution sunk it. Receivers dropping passes, poor decision making, fumbles on top of INTs... all soured huge improvements to the run game & overall balanced approach.

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5 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

This makes alot of sense if you ask me.

 

Something has been missing with this team, and the origin was likely 13 seconds.

 

McDermott has since blamed everyone else and hasn't improved himself since, and the team hasn't looked the same since Daboll...despite last year's record that had alot to do with an easy schedule 

It makes sense because this is directly from OBD through not just a single entity.

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50 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

McD is officially on the hot seat.  
 

Joe Brady saves his job or that’s it.   

McD already lost his job.  His decision to not hire a DC and his decision to hire an unproven OC.  He made the bed he slept in.  

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Just now, clayboy54 said:

You just can't clean house mid-season, especially during a short week. That's a move you make in the off season. Plus, no outside coach will talk to you until you have already moved on from the current guy. IMO, this will happen only if they continue to look like crap the rest of the way. We'll see soon enough.

 

For sure, he sort of needs to stay through week 17.

 

After that he needs to be fired before Josh Allen is completely ruined. 

 

Dick Jauron would have won a lot of games with Allen as well. He had a couple seasons where he won a lot of games with scrub QBs. 

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2 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

He should.  Cronyism will be his down fall.  All the awful Carolina signings and hires are biting him in the arse. 

 

I don't think it's cronyism. He's just not talented enough as a HC. He got the most out of his ability, had a good run. Time to move on.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Spain wasn't on the Bills for the 13-second game. He was on the Bengals and directly contributed to them losing the SB.

The year prior, yes. He's another example of mismanagement by McDermott. Also surprised McCoy hasn't weighed much in on the phone process. 

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12 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I'm in the minority but Dorsey didn't deserve to be fired.  This was a panic move.

I think over time when the shock of last nights game wears off it might be 50/50 lol. I can see hating ken Dorsey but does anyone really believe joe Brady will be better? And we are still mathematically in the playoff hunt so the whole optics of it are weird.

 

The only reason I can see firing him is if McDermott wanted more uptempo playcalling or other changes like that to be made and Dorsey just flat out refused.  It’s pretty panicky if it’s nothing like that 

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1 minute ago, Low Positive said:

This one too

 

 

I'd rather have that then Josh staring blankly on the sidelines, getting into his own head and wondering what he needs to do to win the game by himself.

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