DORSEY FIRED, Joe Brady Interim OC

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Wgr running this Sabres show after this news and the day after a huge Bills loss. What a joke. 

[Nuncha]

Didn't realize the Chargers interviewed Brady for OC before the season.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/chargers/news/chargers-bills-joe-brady-interview-request-offensive-coordinator-nfl-hiring-cycle

Edited November 14, 2023 by Nuncha

[Ballhawk]

So happy. I fully expect we are going to see some ground and pound. Get Fournette up to speed after the bye, alternate with 28 and 4, let's go!

 

Josh will clean alot up if he can complement an effective running game with play action and a timely passing attack. Honestly, I can't understand anyone that is upset with the defense, they've been covering for the O since the Patriots game in week2. Considering we drafted both 1st and 2nd round on offense last year, it's ridiculous to expect a heavily depleted defense to carry this team alone.

 

As for the D breaking late in games, ummm are you new to Buffalo, that's our calling card!

Edited November 14, 2023 by Ballhawk

[BullBuchanan]

2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I'm in the minority but Dorsey didn't deserve to be fired.  This was a panic move.

If it is a minority, I expect it to be slim - at least from people that judge based on their eyes and brain and not just their heart.

[Roundybout]

2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Wonder if we see any changes to personnel here. Like Davis out or some shakeups. You’d assume this guy wouldn’t see everything exactly the same as Dorsey 

Hopefully Isabella get a shot. Maybe Shorter comes off IR too

[bobobonators]

Just now, MarkKelso'sHelmet said:

This is the next question. Who made the call? Was it Pegula or McDermott?

Likely Beane I would say. 

[phypon]

27 minutes ago, Governor said:

Not if we don’t let it. Get loud people!

I say we try the BillBoard thing again like during the Jauron years.  Who's with me?!! 

[Virgil]

2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I'm in the minority but Dorsey didn't deserve to be fired.  This was a panic move.

 

He didn't deserve to be fired after this game, but if the season continued this way, he deserved to be fired by the end of the season.  He's had 1 great game, and 2 games where he wasn't the problem.  That's not good enough

[CaliBills]

This is good.

 

Now Brady NEEDS To remove the deep option routes for Davis/Diggs/Shakir/etc and any Deep route period.  It should be layered and compliment each other.  Force the defense to choose on which route they want to cover, something more shallow or something deeper. 

 

Dorsey's scheme relied to heavily on the WR's to make the right decision based on coverage and CB/S leverage and forced Josh to trust the WR's are making the right read.  

 

This works a lot better on short routes (Like Beasley used to be amazing at) and since they are shorter the throws can be made after breaks or sits in zone with how Allen's arm is.

 

On deeper route options, no longer can Josh make the read based on Safety movement and Zone vs Man.  He had to wait.  Because having both the QB and WR having to make split second decisions on where the ball should be thrown, along with other WRs having to make the same read on coverage and choose a route that wouldn't hurt another route or bring defenders into that space is WAYYYYY too complicated and way to many points of failure based on decisions to work efficiently.

 

IE The intentional grounding call against the Bengals because a deep route option, Davis stopped his route and Josh thought he would keep going.

[Chandler#81]

Sadly, McJesus has to stay for now cuz he’s the DC. Pulling up another mediocre underling and reshuffling below them will be more damaging to the players careers than keeping him, so the season is still a washout.
 

Is Harvey Johnson available? 

[appoo]

1 minute ago, BeastMaster said:

Regular season wise, sure.

 

This team has underperformed in the playoffs for years, and now they have failed miserably in the regular season. 

 

The Bills have been going backwards, and that is on McDermott 

They’ve lost to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes twice, took a good DeShaun Watson to OT prior to Allen Taking The Leap, and then last year an exhausted and injuries Bills team lost to a really good Bengals team.

 

This isn’t failure. They lost to teams that were better than them in terms of personell 

[davefan66]

Just now, MarkKelso'sHelmet said:

This is the next question. Who made the call? Was it Pegula or McDermott? 

I’m sure Pegula and Beane had an immediate meeting after the game.  Was McD given a choice?  The more I think about it, no.  It was ultimately the owner.  Which I am fine with that he isn’t just sitting on a bad situation.

 

Canning McD would certainly kill whatever hope you have for the remainder of the season.  Letting it play out now.

[jlgarsh]

Pat McAfee is ripping into McD without saying his name so far today

[JerseyBills]

Was idiotic to have Josh hand pick him or any oc in the 1st place. You get together as a staff and get the guy you want. Don't ask a 25 year old QB

[Eastport bills]

Sean is a dead man walking if we miss the playoffs. Any OC replacement doesn’t excuse the team not being buttoned up and the responsibility for Josh taking a step back. Attention to detail is a given for winning franchises. We, sadly are lacking necessities and if the Pegulas don’t see this, they don’t care about getting us a championship.

[HomeskillitMoorman]

8 minutes ago, appoo said:

Firing your hand picked OC is essentially taking ownership of a mistake. Whose job is it to evaluate the talent of your assistant coaches and coordinators? The head coach 

 

He's fired a number of coordinators now. Picking quality coaches is a big part of being a successful Head Coach. And he brought him back for year two and waited too long to fire him and never changed anything. And if you listened to McD last night, he did scapegoat Dorsey for even something irrational like "scoring too fast". It came off badly because there's a million things you could criticize Dorsey for...and that wasn't one of them. 

[BullBuchanan]

4 minutes ago, Ballhawk said:

So happy. I fully expect we are going to see some ground and pound. Get Fournette up to speed after the bye, alternate 28 and 4, let's go!

 

Josh will clean alot up if he can complement and effective running game with play action and a timely passing attack. Honestly, I can;t understand anyone that is upset with the defense, they've been covering for the O since the Patriots game in week2. Considering we drafted both 1st and 2nd round on offense last year, it's ridiculous to expect a heavily depleted defense to carry this team alone.

 

As for the D breaking late in games, ummm are you new to Buffalo, that's our calling card!

Fournette hasn't been good since LSU. Any team in the league could have had him (including us) and yet he's still not on a roster which means he's not one of the top 96 RBs in football. If you think he's the solution to your problem, you're probably fighting for draft position instead of the playoffs.

The only reason he's here is as a backup to the role Murray is serving.

Edited November 14, 2023 by BullBuchanan

[Roundybout]

2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Sadly, McJesus has to stay for now cuz he’s the DC. Pulling up another mediocre underling and reshuffling below them will be more damaging to the players careers than keeping him, so the season is still a washout.
 

Is Harvey Johnson available? 

Why do you people call him McJesus? 

[billsfanmd07]

3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Wonder if we see any changes to personnel here. Like Davis out or some shakeups. You’d assume this guy wouldn’t see everything exactly the same as Dorsey 

Lets hope. Bench a few guys....Try new ideas. The Ravens had an undrafted guy get 6 touches and scored twice because he's fastest guy on the field. Throw Isabella out there....Anything new to get fast guys in space instead of our slow guys in traffic..

[ddaryl]

5 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I'm in the minority but Dorsey didn't deserve to be fired.  This was a panic move.

 

 

Yes McDermott should be fired but he wasn't going to fire himself, this was the only move he would make.

 

That being said, Dorsey didn't do much to not get fired either. It wasn't workign and he had no adjustments