This team never makes a big stop

[FireChans]

Just now, Big Turk said:

 

Recency bias.  You can go back numerous times since McD was here and see plays where the D won the game.

 

Taron Johnson intercepting Mahomes to end the game last year was one.

 

This offense is unacceptable and the fact people want to act like because they gave us a lead late that it somehow falls on the D is laughable.  They are the only reason the Bills weren't down by 20+ after handing them 4 TO's and an average drive start of their own 42 yard line.  So tired of watching this offense remind me of the Dick Jauron/Chan Gailey/Doug Marrone era offenses.  Inexcusable.

We don’t pay Josh and Stef half a billy to play Jauron ball and try to steal the game at the end. 
 

We are winless this season when the defense allows 21 points. That’s league average. We cannot score enough. Offense is broke.

[MAJBobby]

Can someone explain to me why we spend all these assets and cash on the DL only to run ineffective blitzes at key times?

 

you DL was getting pressure without the blitz isn’t that the goal?  
 

by not blitzing wouldn’t that have been useful to help with a spy and the banged up Defensive Backfield?

 

 

 

[Yobogoya!]

3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Can someone explain to me why we spend all these assets and cash on the DL only to run ineffective blitzes at key times?

 

you DL was getting pressure without the blitz isn’t that the goal?  
 

by not blitzing wouldn’t that have been useful to help with a spy and the banged up Defensive Backfield?

 

 

 

 

I swear our blitzers are specifically looking for blockers to run into, lol. It's sad. 

 

Or they run untouched into the QB and whiff on him. See that a lot, too. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Can someone explain to me why we spend all these assets and cash on the DL only to run ineffective blitzes at key times?

 

you DL was getting pressure without the blitz isn’t that the goal?  
 

by not blitzing wouldn’t that have been useful to help with a spy and the banged up Defensive Backfield?

 

 

 

 

I didn't get that.... 3x1 spy with dorian again, 7 in coverage with 5 across.  Force the 4th down.  Make payton decide to go for it or kick the long FG.   I mean hell you can man match with safety help over the top.  

[BillsFan130]

10 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

The OP said big stops. People are really going to make it look like I am defending the coaching here and I am not, but do you think that maybe since they were on the field all game in tough spots they got wore out in the 4th? (And even then still should have won if not for bad coaching decisions)

 

Well said

Nope. Crunch time you need to make a stop. This is not a one time thing .

 

4 times this year they needed a stop when they were leading or needed a stop in the 4th to have a chance.

Want to know what the results are?

 

0-4.

 

Jax- 2 TDs in a row to salt the game away

NE- GW drive to mac jones

cinci- drains the clock to end game

Den- GW drive to Russell Wilson

 

The offence is def the reason they lost in a vacuum . But the defence is to blame as well as it’s the same story with them in the 4th quarter 

Edited November 14, 2023 by BillsFan130

[zow2]

13 seconds is the big "didn't get the big stop" moment, but yeah, there's been countless others.  Just this season, we've seen the offense finally show up late and the D could not get that one big stop against Denver, Cinci, Mac Jones, Jags.  And they didn't even stop the NY Giants, they got kinda lucky.  There's so many more including all those OT losses...

[Bermuda Triangle]

12 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Not in the 4th quarter.

 

Last two drives: 8 minute drive- TD.

 

GW field goal with time expiring 

It's a pattern, for sure.

[JerseyBills]

23 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Well said…and I bet that we all knew it when Denver got the ball. I was screaming for Josh to slide at the one yard line! 

Same! I knew it'd be just like NE cpl weeks ago. And the whole McD era 

[Bray Wyatt]

4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Nope. Crunch time you need to make a stop. This is not a one time thing .

 

4 times this year they needed a stop when they were leading or needed a stop in the 4th to have a chance.

Want to know what the results are?

 

0-4.

 

Jax- 2 TDs in a row to salt the game away

NE- GW drive to mac jones

cinci- drains the clock to end game

Den- GW drive to Russell Wilson

 

The offence is def the reason they lost in a vacuum . But the defence is to blame as well as it’s the same story with them in the 4th quarter 

 

You are arguing against a point that I didnt make. 

 

 

 

[BillsFan130]

10 minutes ago, BBFL said:

That last TD drive started at midfield man… Another ST let down. Sure they could have done better but they were on fringe scoring  to start. 
 

Sideline to Perine and the short pass to Sutton on 3rd & 4 were the only absolute failings by the defense on that drive… They converted that due to coverage design. 

You have to make a stop on one of those two drives

 

It’s Russell Wilson we are talking here. Not pat Mahomes .

 

No excuse to give up a 8 minute TD drive and a GW field goal to end the game against Rus Wilson 

 

Stop one^ of those and you win 

[streetkings01]

It’s been the same story with the defense for awhile now. People will point to the injuries and how well they’ve played despite the injuries, but they always and I mean always give up a pivotal scoring drive when we clearly need a stop.

 

That defensive line is the healthiest unit and they should be good enough to get pivotal stops which they never do. We watched Zack Wilson, Tyrod Taylor, Mac Jones, Baker Mayfield and the ghost of Russel Wilson all drive the ball down the field to either win the game or put their team in position to win the game!

Edited November 14, 2023 by streetkings01

[UKBillFan]

25 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

The Broncos had 4 drives start in our territory and only got 6 points on those. I would say they made big stops

 

The offense suddenly appears in clutch moments. The defense disappears.

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Bray Wyatt said:

 

You are arguing against a point that I didnt make. 

 

 

 

Sorry if I misunderstood.

 

But no I don’t think them being on the field all game is an excuse. Part of the reason they are on the field all game is because they don’t force many 3 and outs.

 

(Of course mixed with bad offence as well)

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

The defense absolutely kept us alive in that first half but when the lights came on and the game was changing we needed to make a stop we let them go right down the field on us. It’s just constant. The entire game counts I get that but once we took a late lead, you have to hold it.

[BeastMaster]

HC is a defensive guy, and he is also the DC

 

Every game when all we need is a stop to win, the defense folds

 

This is easy. Coach has to be held to account

[Gregg]

17 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said:

 

Wow, way to go out on a limb... 

 

Has nothing to do with going out on limb. Just knew it would be another heartbreaking loss like the NE game. 

[Johnnycage46]

It's too convenient to blame the defense.  They were on the field for 40 minutes compared to our O's 20 mins of possession.  They held up pretty much all game and it was bound to happen with the way the offense insists on screwing around for 85% of most games.  Instead of blaming the defense...point the blame at Allen and the coaching staff.  They lost this game, the Jets game, and the Patriots game.

[BuffaloRebound]

It’s called finding a way to lose even when the other team hands you the game.  McDermott is a good man who brought us out of the depths, but it’s time for a change. 

[The Jokeman]

23 minutes ago, Ramza86 said:

The defense always sucks when it matters. 

 

McDermott sending everyone and getting that sack? Nice call.

 

WHY ARE YOU DOING THE SAME THING AGAIN? YOU KNOW RUSS IS ON ALERT NOW AND HAS TO THROW IT UP.

Wilson was averaging less than 5 yards a pass. The problem wasn't we rushed him, the problem was Taron got beat and had to recover and his first instinct was play the man not the ball and got flagged for it. Do we blame coaches or players at that point? It can go both ways but last night I blame Taron on that, as he's been horrible in coverage most of this season. 

[Big Turk]

17 minutes ago, FireChans said:

We don’t pay Josh and Stef half a billy to play Jauron ball and try to steal the game at the end. 
 

We are winless this season when the defense allows 21 points. That’s league average. We cannot score enough. Offense is broke.

 

Nathaniel Hackett got more production out of Thad Lewis, Jeff Tuel, Marquise Goodwin and Sammy Watkins then we are getting out of Josh Allen and Diggs right now.  That's mind numbing.