Dan Orlovsky….. Bills offense is fundamentally broken

[Haslett_Stomp]

56 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

It was the most frustrating thing about the season so far to me.  A light should have been going off in the staffs mind last night when seeing Denver line up down after down.   It should have been run the ball until they commit to stop it.  

 

instead they killed drives trying to throw the ball.

 

^ this.  At one point Murray gained at least 7-8 yards on consecutive runs, then the Bills go with an empty backfield.  They should have run it down Denver's throat until they stopped it.

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Kincaid wasn't the first read in the play that was called, though. It was a three-step drop out of shotgun (such a dumb play call on 4th and 1). Even if Allen decides pre-snap that Kincaid is his first read and Allen throws to him at the end of his drop, the defender likely closes in on time to knock the ball out or tackle Kincaid short of the first. That would be a very risky throw to attempt on a 4th down.

 

The bigger issue - Why were they even in that position in the first place?

 

Because Diggs(of all people) dropped an easy catch on 2nd down which would have made Kincaid's catch on 3rd down an easy 1st down and kept them out of having to go for it on 4th down to begin with.

 

Cascading issues are the theme with this team.

 

Edited November 14, 2023 by Big Turk

[Wayne Arnold]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

The bigger issue - Why were they even in that position in the first place?

 

Because Diggs(of all people) dropped an easy catch on 2nd down which would have made Kincaid's catch on 3rd down an easy 1st down and kept them out of having to go for it on 4th down to begin with.

 

Cascading issues are the theme with this team.

 

 

Correct. The offense is a mess. The entire program is stale. 100% indicative of an NFL team that needs a brand new coaching staff.

[RousseauRage]

We are wasting this defense by having such an inept offense for YEARS.

[Murdox]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

There was someone who was in charge of the offense. Someone who like, coordinates it? 

 

I’ll do some digging but maybe this guy isn’t doing his job well enough. 

 

I can kind of agree with Dan that they put the guy in motion and the read of zone defense was there and should have been used to get the ball out to Dalton quickly.  It was an easy first down.

[Saratoga Leo]

1 hour ago, Avisan said:

Yeah.  The coaching staff may well have some insurmountable limitations, but poor player execution is the demonstrable cause of many of our offensive woes, and most of those errors don't appear to be due to design complexity or anything unusual or novel at the NFL level.

 

Like okay, replace the coaches-- is that going to solve our ability to read the defense, catch the ball, hang onto the ball, or finish tackles?

Agreed but I think it goes deeper. There is a rather simplistic saying related to elementary school teachers - "If the students aren't learning, the teacher isn't teaching".

It seems the players are not learning what the coaches are trying to teach. 

[Mango]

1 minute ago, Murdox said:

 

I can kind of agree with Dan that they put the guy in motion and the read of zone defense was there and should have been used to get the ball out to Dalton quickly.  It was an easy first down.

 

Or at least hold after the motion and redirect traffic a bit. 

[Airseven]

2 hours ago, Pirate Angel said:

All I can think about when I hear Dan Orlovsky is when he ran out of the back of the end zone and gave up a safety. Hard to listen to him critique anything after that 

He makes insightful points. Articulate at the very least. But then loses credibility when he dances (flops) around on set with the rest of the clowns gunning for social media snippets.

[Don Otreply]

2 hours ago, stlbills13 said:

Orlovsky has been right about a lot of things regarding the Bills this season but he's gotten to the point of being annoying and repetitive now. 

Its only annoying because he’s right, Dorsey is in over his head, and the offense is fundamentally broken.

 

GO BILLS!!!