Deep thoughts, with Bruce Vilanch

[BruceVilanch]

Fire McDermott and Dorsey tomorrow morning. Roll with this team, for this season and clean house once the season is over. I'm honestly fine keeping Beane, but wouldn't be opposed to getting a fresh set of eyes from the GM spot. Keep Diggs, Kincaid, Cook, and Shakir. Josh is still young and we would attract any OC we wanted, we have weapons, we just don't have a creative OFFENSIVE minded head coach. It's clear McDermott's message has gone stale and this season is done, I honestly think we would have a shot at a wildcard spot with an interim head coach, they would play their ass off for anyone who has a new message,and Josh would hopefully revert to playing like his old self. I've honestly never witnessed a worse coaching performance at any level of football.

 

 

Mods feel free to delete or merge, I just needed to get this out. 

[Bangarang]

If we’re firing McD then I want Beane gone too. 

 

McD essentially hand picked Beane and he deserves his fair share of criticism. 

[Big Turk]

I think most of what has gone wrong this year stems from McD taking on double duty as DC and HC.  This kinda stuff was not the norm under him. In fact, this is kinda like the anti-McD.  Think it's obvious some things are being overlooked and slipping thru the cracks in terms of preparation, attention to details and just general oversight that he can't have anymore because of him being heavily invested in creating defensive gameplans and calling plays.

 

Personally, I think McD needs to pick someone to hand off DC duties to and go back to just being a HC full time.  Clearly this is not working out the way we had hoped, and it's no coincidence this sloppiness that has pervaded this team throughout the year started the first year McD attempted to pull double duty.  

 

Even most HC's that run one side of the ball still have coordinator's that do most of the heavy lifting on that side of the ball during the week.

Edited November 14, 2023 by Big Turk

[HomeskillitMoorman]

Just now, Big Turk said:

I think most of what has gone wrong this year stems from McD taking on double duty as DC and HC.  This kinda stuff was not the norm under him. In fact, this is kinda like the anti-McD.  Think it's obvious some things are being overlooked and slipping thru the cracks in terms of preparation, attention to details and just general oversight that he can't have anymore because of him being heavily invested in creating defensive gameplans and calling plays.

 

Personally, I think McD needs to pick someone to hand off DC duties to and go back to just being a HC full time.  Clearly this is not working out the way we had hoped, and it's no coincidence this sloppiness that has pervaded this team throughout the year started the first year McD attempted to pull double duty.  

 

Even most HC's that run that side of the ball still have coordinator's that do most of the heavy lifting on that side of the ball during the week.

 

Oh my God, you're still doing this. 

So what's the excuse on the last play? What else was McD doing that he couldn't count 12 guys on the field? AFTER a timeout too! 

[Virgil]

Try a deep search next time 

[Herc11]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

I think most of what has gone wrong this year stems from McD taking on double duty as DC and HC.  This kinda stuff was not the norm under him. In fact, this is kinda like the anti-McD.  Think it's obvious some things are being overlooked and slipping thru the cracks in terms of preparation, attention to details and just general oversight that he can't have anymore because of him being heavily invested in creating defensive gameplans and calling plays.

 

Personally, I think McD needs to pick someone to hand off DC duties to and go back to just being a HC full time.  Clearly this is not working out the way we had hoped, and it's no coincidence this sloppiness that has pervaded this team throughout the year started the first year McD attempted to pull double duty.  

 

Even most HC's that run one side of the ball still have coordinator's that do most of the heavy lifting on that side of the ball during the week.

 

He's consistently failed in big moments. Not sure how you think his blunders this year are any different.

[Bferra13]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

I think most of what has gone wrong this year stems from McD taking on double duty as DC and HC.  This kinda stuff was not the norm under him. In fact, this is kinda like the anti-McD.  Think it's obvious some things are being overlooked and slipping thru the cracks in terms of preparation, attention to details and just general oversight that he can't have anymore because of him being heavily invested in creating defensive gameplans and calling plays.

 

Personally, I think McD needs to pick someone to hand off DC duties to and go back to just being a HC full time.  Clearly this is not working out the way we had hoped, and it's no coincidence this sloppiness that has pervaded this team throughout the year started the first year McD attempted to pull double duty.  

 

Even most HC's that run one side of the ball still have coordinator's that do most of the heavy lifting on that side of the ball during the week.

He has to go. I like him too... Monday through Saturday that is.

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Herc11 said:

 

He's consistently failed in big moments. Not sure how you think his blunders this year are any different.

 

His blunders typically aren't in the regular season tho.  The Bills routinely won these type of games in the previous 5 years.

[Gunsgoodtime]

9 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

If we’re firing McD then I want Beane gone too. 

 

McD essentially hand picked Beane and he deserves his fair share of criticism. 

I'm mute on the point.  I could fire McDermott and keep Beane, but I would have no problem firing them both if that's what it took

[Herc11]

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

His blunders typically aren't in the regular season tho.  The Bills routinely won these type of games in the previous 5 years.

Who cares when they happen. He has not shown the ability to learn from his own mistakes. How in the hell hasn't he fixed this after his biggest failure... 13 seconds. 

 

Who's going to bench McDermott for his fumbles?

[RiotAct]

that was deep, man

[Dr.Sack]

Merge 

[LABILLBACKER]

41 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

If we’re firing McD then I want Beane gone too. 

 

McD essentially hand picked Beane and he deserves his fair share of criticism. 

Beane gets one more year in my book. IMHO Sean McDermott was very influential in those failed defensive picks.  Get a offensive HC in here immediately and stress offense in future drafts. Not the ratio McB wanted (60% D).

[Skyline Chili]

31 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

I'm mute on the point.  I could fire McDermott and keep Beane, but I would have no problem firing them both if that's what it took

It's a package deal.  McDermott got Beane's job and he whiffs on most draft picks, most recent being Elam.  Got to blow it up 

[mannc]

Without Josh Allen, McDermott would have been fired four years ago.  He is every bit as bad as Mularkey, Jauron, Gailley, etc.

[Gunsgoodtime]

23 minutes ago, mannc said:

Without Josh Allen, McDermott would have been fired four years ago.  He is every bit as bad as Mularkey, Jauron, Gailley, etc.

Without Josh Allen, we wouldn't even be making the playoffs! Oh, wait...yikes!  I bet anything Gailey would have this team trucking forward harder than they are now.  He'll, look what he did with Ryan Fitzpatrick and Stevie Johnson!  We have Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs now and we are just as bad if not worse!  The coaches are failing miserabley.  In a catastrophic type bombing effect 

[NickelCity]

I think Pegula might need Beane for a HC search. I'm a bit worried about Terry and a headhunting crew making a good choice.

[Nextmanup]

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

If we’re firing McD then I want Beane gone too. 

 

McD essentially hand picked Beane and he deserves his fair share of criticism. 

The thing is, unlike McDermott, Beane has a number of redeeming qualities, and this team is naturally headed toward a time period of huge change as it is.  It might be nice leaving Beane in place to architect the retool.

 

Having said that, if Beane has to go with McDermott, so be it! 

 

Better both go than neither.

 

 

[Dan Darragh]

1 hour ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

So what's the excuse on the last play? What else was McD doing that he couldn't count 12 guys on the field? AFTER a timeout too! 

He was still face palming after calling the second blitz.

 

BTW there was no timeout, the Broncos had to run their FG unit out there fast.  Problem was that McD used up his timeouts on defense and whoever was responsible for counting the players couldn't do anything about it.

16 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

Without Josh Allen, we wouldn't even be making the playoffs! Oh, wait...yikes!  I bet anything Gailey would have this team trucking forward harder than they are now.  He'll, look what he did with Ryan Fitzpatrick and Stevie Johnson!  We have Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs now and we are just as bad if not worse!  The coaches are failing miserabley.  In a catastrophic type bombing effect 

Gailey and Wade are the two unsung heroes of the post-superbowl years.

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

I think most of what has gone wrong this year stems from McD taking on double duty as DC and HC.  This kinda stuff was not the norm under him. In fact, this is kinda like the anti-McD.  Think it's obvious some things are being overlooked and slipping thru the cracks in terms of preparation, attention to details and just general oversight that he can't have anymore because of him being heavily invested in creating defensive gameplans and calling plays.

 

Personally, I think McD needs to pick someone to hand off DC duties to and go back to just being a HC full time.  Clearly this is not working out the way we had hoped, and it's no coincidence this sloppiness that has pervaded this team throughout the year started the first year McD attempted to pull double duty.  

 

Even most HC's that run one side of the ball still have coordinator's that do most of the heavy lifting on that side of the ball during the week.

This is worrying about the color of the frosting on the cake when the cake is rotten. 

 

The basic strategic approach that the Bills have taken since landing a true franchise QB in 2019 has failed.  This approach, designed and executed by McD & Bean emphasized the defense at the expense of the offense.  EVERY top franchise in the NFL today with Allen at QB would have done the opposite and emphasized their offense over their defense. 

 

It really is that simple and the solution is really that simple - fire McD & Bean.