boyst Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: True but it also somehow felt like they went away from the run too often. Seemed like they could’ve run the ball 48 times and won easily or at least waited until it forced Denver to totally load the box. But whatever. This is a poorly-coached team in complete free fall and the only thing preventing change at this point is Pegula’s own laziness. 1) we went away from the run when McDermott took away a primary piece of Dorseys gameplan. Especially the scripted plays. The Broncos run defense was their weakness. McDermott hobbled the offense pulling out Cook. Maybe it made him hungry to come back in and we saw the result but we will never know. 2) the offense was much better game planned and schemed than the defense. too many give up 3rd downs, too many rushers/blitzers leaving too few in coverage when we were not getting to Wilson, just a bunch of things on defense that were not working. Note: the defense executed better than the offense but that is not high bar. the defense could not tackle, rush the qb, and were poor in coverage. 1 1 Quote
Playoffs? Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 McD looked like he knew he is about to be fired at the end of the game. Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, boyst said: 1) we went away from the run when McDermott took away a primary piece of Dorseys gameplan. Especially the scripted plays. The Broncos run defense was their weakness. McDermott hobbled the offense pulling out Cook. Maybe it made him hungry to come back in and we saw the result but we will never know. 2) the offense was much better game planned and schemed than the defense. too many give up 3rd downs, too many rushers/blitzers leaving too few in coverage when we were not getting to Wilson, just a bunch of things on defense that were not working. Note: the defense executed better than the offense but that is not high bar. the defense could not tackle, rush the qb, and were poor in coverage. Agree w most of that. Certainly the blitzes last night were insanely dumb - and even when they only rushed 3 or 4, they kept rushing too far downfield and letting Wilson easily step up and reset or scramble. The gym teacher coach has lost his team. 1 1 Quote
JerseyBills Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 7 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: Scoring too fast??? ***** me what is wrong with this coach... And he's a defensive oach lol. D played solid to be fair , considering their injuries but ya i hate that mentality Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 The regression of this team since the 13 seconds cannot be ignored. 2020 - lost in Championship Game 2021 - Lost in Divisional game 13 seconds 2022 - lost by 17 at home in Divisional Game. 2023 - 5-5 The “Process” is stale and unfortunately I don’t see an easy way to solve this next year either with the Cap the Bills currently have. the team is Old, slow and the coaching is Stale. we are the Marvin Lewis Bengals of this era at this point. And yes while I am going to blame coaching right now. Josh REALLY can you finally improve on ball security. You have been in the league long enough to freaking go at least back to back games without a turnover. How about you end your ***** streak of what 6 games with a pick to start. 3 Quote
UKBillFan Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: And he's a defensive oach lol. D played solid to be fair , considering their injuries but ya i hate that mentality McDermott's defense chokes in clutch situations. Always has, seemingly always will. The offense is opposite at the moment - only turns up in clutch situations, which can be a case of too little too late. Quote
JerseyBills Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: McDermott's defense chokes in clutch situations. Always has, seemingly always will. The offense is opposite at the moment - only turns up in clutch situations, which can be a case of too little too late. 2nd time this year, including NE and many times recently, especially playoffs Quote
UKBillFan Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, JerseyBills said: 2nd time this year, including NE and many times recently, especially playoffs Arguably yesterday was the third time this year - the Giants came was a fortunate mess of an ending. And the Bucs offense came so close to nailing a Hail Mary, though won't say that's the fourth. Quote
yall Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Dorsey didn't call a terrible offense last night. The players dropping easy catches and allowing 4 turnovers killed it though. McDermott on the other hand still refuses to hold himself accountable for the overall performance of the team, clock management and decision making. Or you know the things we otherwise refer to as "his ***** job". 1 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, yall said: Dorsey didn't call a terrible offense last night. The players dropping easy catches and allowing 4 turnovers killed it though. McDermott on the other hand still refuses to hold himself accountable for the overall performance of the team, clock management and decision making. Or you know the things we otherwise refer to as "his ***** job". He seems to be one of the most unaccountable executives in the entire country. Quote
bostonadguy Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 I wonder if he being DC is making it hard to oversee the whole operation. Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: The regression of this team since the 13 seconds cannot be ignored. 2020 - lost in Championship Game 2021 - Lost in Divisional game 13 seconds 2022 - lost by 17 at home in Divisional Game. 2023 - 5-5 The “Process” is stale and unfortunately I don’t see an easy way to solve this next year either with the Cap the Bills currently have. the team is Old, slow and the coaching is Stale. we are the Marvin Lewis Bengals of this era at this point. And yes while I am going to blame coaching right now. Josh REALLY can you finally improve on ball security. You have been in the league long enough to freaking go at least back to back games without a turnover. How about you end your ***** streak of what 6 games with a pick to start. Allen just isn't that good. Period. Yes, the coaching sucks, yes, the GM sucks. But yes, the QB ALSO ducks. 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Allen just isn't that good. Period. Yes, the coaching sucks, yes, the GM sucks. But yes, the QB ALSO ducks. So where in my post did I not put a heaping serving of blame for where we are on the QB? I have been a pretty harsh critic of Josh this year take a lot of heat about it. But it is what it is. The guy cannot do basic stuff at this point. Even in this very basic offense. 1 Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, MAJBobby said: So where in my post did I not put a heaping serving of blame for where we are on the QB? I have been a pretty harsh critic of Josh this year take a lot of heat about it. But it is what it is. The guy cannot do basic stuff at this point. Even in this very basic offense. You and I are in synch about this team for the first time ever. This team has run it's course. Though I think my prescription for what to do is likely harsher than yours Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: You and I are in synch about this team for the first time ever. This team has run it's course. Though I think my prescription for what to do is likely harsher than yours My solution would be Fire the HC and entire Offensive Staff. defensive position group coaches can stay pending an evaluation from your new Offensive minded coach. That coach then makes the decision on Allen. I am not forcing Allen on a coach. But there are enough coaches that will love to coach him. Allen is salvageable In my opinion. And if he isn’t you eventually will get a top pick to get a new one 1 Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, MAJBobby said: My solution would be Fire the HC and entire Offensive Staff. defensive position group coaches can stay pending an evaluation from your new Offensive minded coach. That coach then makes the decision on Allen. I am not forcing Allen on a coach. But there are enough coaches that will love to coach him. Allen is salvageable In my opinion. And if he isn’t you eventually will get a top pick to get a new one Yeah, that's more conservative than I'd like I agree on firing pretty much everyone, but I'd also move on from Josh. That contract for a guy who's pretty average is just not doable. Quote
BillsFan130 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Yeah, that's more conservative than I'd like I agree on firing pretty much everyone, but I'd also move on from Josh. That contract for a guy who's pretty average is just not doable. Move on from Josh, Are we serious right now? And get who as our QB? Take a big Gamble on a mid round draft pick or get another re tread QB who sucks? Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, BillsFan130 said: Move on from Josh, Are we serious right now? And get who as our QB? Take a big Gamble on a mid round draft pick or get another re tread QB who sucks? Trade him to a top 5 draft position team like Chicago for a draft haul and try with a rookie. Josh is what he is at this point and what he is isn't good enough. 3 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Trade him to a top 5 draft position team like Chicago for a draft haul and try with a rookie. Josh is what he is at this point and what he is isn't good enough. I mean, is what he is? He leads the league in total TDS for even how inconsistent he has played. Josh isn’t playing great football now, no doubt. But Mahomes is actually on a colder streak than him, but no one talks about that cause he has defence and coaching bail him out with wins 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Yeah, that's more conservative than I'd like I agree on firing pretty much everyone, but I'd also move on from Josh. That contract for a guy who's pretty average is just not doable. That contract is unmovable so you give your new offensive minded head coach a shot with him. He is light years more talented that a Goff and look what coaching has done for him. I can say the same for Stafford Quote
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