So, Diggs saw this coming, no?

[JohnBonhamRocks]

35 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Agreed, he's not the problem but IMO he is a problem.

In what way is he a problem?

4 minutes ago, CaliBills said:

 

Not saying he is the problem but its not all on Allen either.  Taking plays off when you don't get the ball to me is selfish.  

What plays did he take off? I’d be interested to see any replays if you can provide them.

[RyanC883]

2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

Couldnt agree more.  Being a great leader is deciding what reaction/action is necessary for a given situation.   He doesnt have that ability.  He only runs hot, and often times that is the exact wrong reaction, often times based on selfish reasoning.   He is a great talent, but he is also an emotionally immature guy.   I would have no problem with the Bills moving on from him in the offseason.   I dont think his attitude or his brother's idiotic inability to keep the situation off twitter is helpful to the team at all.

 

That said, if they ship him off they have to get a wideout back in the deal.    Would love to see him in a Bears uniform next year.

 

I  think cap considerations kill any trade unless he redoes his contract first.  I could be wrong.  But if we could get a Bears 1st, plus a WR, and draft Harrison Jr. that'd work for me.  Then turn cap savings into a FA safety, extending Floyd, etc.  (I know we need OL help, but that's gen too expensive in FA.  I'd draft a C/G later in the first.) 

[Rigotz]

12 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

Destroy a great QB?

 

It was exactly two weeks ago Allen was:

 

#1 in TD's

#1 in Completion %

#1 in QBR

#1 ranked PFF QB

Tied #1 in Interceptions

 

In other words, just two weeks ago he was having a career year with the typical high turnovers we see out of him. I don't think Allen has been destroyed at all. Even with this current two game slide since those #1 rankings I imagine Allen ranks pretty high still.  But that is not to say McDermott hasn't lost the locker room and have other issues. 

 

 

"Destroy" might be overstated. What I mean is no longer being maximized and certainly not improving. All of the talent in the world and he's getting worse.

 

We can talk about statistics all we want, but the offense hasn't been producing with a quarterback that is proven to be elite. I'm not absolving Josh Allen of any blame, it just seems like basic fact that the current coaching staff has not produced an offense that is as effective as it used to be ... the offense is led by the quarterback. The quarterback is no longer performing at the elite level he was previously known for. Thus, the coaching staff is mismanaging ("destroying") our best asset.

[CaliBills]

10 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

In what way is he a problem?

What plays did he take off? I’d be interested to see any replays if you can provide them.

 

This was just from the Bills vs Broncos Highlights.  Easy to watch and see.

 

Watch the first three plays of the Bills offense, Each time after someone else has the ball he stands around.  Each time.  Even the run block he half asses it cause it went the other way. no trying to sell it, nothing. Just eh here I put my arms on you.  "Good Enough".

 

Interception through Davis hands, even Dion ran over, no Diggs in site.  

 

That shows to me he is playing selfishly.

 

And another one

 

Edited November 16, 2023 by CaliBills

[BillsMontreal]

On 11/14/2023 at 12:27 AM, Comebackkid said:

surround him with an imcompetent staff.   

Exaclty. He could hire Coordinators who can challenge him...It could help his program a lot!

He clearly prefers good soldiers.

 

[UKBillFan]

12 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

In what way is he a problem?

What plays did he take off? I’d be interested to see any replays if you can provide them.

 

Throughout the summer discontent with Josh rumbled on. Josh addresses it; Diggs decided to let it continue. He soon slaps down someone when she mishears something in Twitter. His brother mouths off against the franchise and his QB - any rebuttal? Any support for the Bills or the QB to counter it? Or is it just being allowed to brew further.

[london_bills]

On Diggs.. there was a game about a year ago where diggs wasn't getting the ball as much and on the sideline I'm pretty sure he was shouting at Allen saying 'I made you man' or words to that effect ! 

[Alphadawg7]

6 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

exactly 

and he doubled down on the initial tweet. 

Like I said, it's all speculation but when there's smoke usually there's fire

He also tweeted on Tuesday.  Just saying. Hopefully it's b.s and Allen has a huge chip on his shoulder and dominates vs Dal

 

My only point is that his brothers text have not at all been representative of Stefons thoughts thus far, he has been wrong every time and just tweeting what he wants, not what Stefon wants.  So to jump to a conclusion that his tweets (which happeend before Stef could have even spoken to him as Stef was still with the team on Monday night football) were Stefs words has no logic behind it other than creating a narrative without any substance.  

 

 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

26 minutes ago, CaliBills said:

 

This was just from the Bills vs Broncos Highlights.  Easy to watch and see.

 

Watch the first three plays of the Bills offense, Each time after someone else has the ball he stands around.  Each time.  Even the run block he half asses it cause it went the other way. no trying to sell it, nothing. Just eh here I put my arms on you.  "Good Enough".

 

Interception through Davis hands, even Dion ran over, no Diggs in site.  

 

That shows to me he is playing selfishly.

 

And another one

 

OK I did.
 

First play he blocks his man for 2-3 seconds while Cook fumbles on the other side of the field.

 

Second play yes he does not try to go to Davis who is on the other side of the field (albeit not as far as Cook was on the first play) and about to go down with 3-4 Broncos around him; Diggs’ DB was not involved in tackling Davis.

 

Third play he stops blocking when again on the other side of the field it is clear that Murray cut it outside and away from Diggs whose DB again ends up nowhere near the play.

 

It is common for WRs/DBs who are nowhere near the ballcarrier to half-heartedly block each other.

 

Diggs is not the problem.

[CaliBills]

1 minute ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

OK I did.
 

First play he blocks his man for 2-3 seconds while Cook fumbles on the other side of the field.

 

Second play yes he does not try to go to Davis who is on the other side of the field (albeit not as far as Cook was on the first play) and about to go down with 3-4 Broncos around him; Diggs’ DB was not involved in tackling Davis.

 

Third play he stops blocking when again on the other side of the field it is clear that Murray cut it outside and away from Diggs whose DB again ends up nowhere near the play.

 

It is common for WRs/DBs who are nowhere near the ballcarrier to half-heartedly block each other.

 

Diggs is not the problem.

 

Guess playing until the end of the whistle means nothing to him. Again playing selfishly.   But anyone with Rose colored glasses will make excuses.  

[EasternOHBillsFan]

1 minute ago, CaliBills said:

 

Guess playing until the end of the whistle means nothing to him. Again playing selfishly.   But anyone with Rose colored glasses will make excuses.  

 

Playing until the end of the whistle on the OPPOSITE side of the field... I guess anyone looking to make a tempest out of a teapot will say anything to try and be right.

[CaliBills]

1 minute ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

Playing until the end of the whistle on the OPPOSITE side of the field... I guess anyone looking to make a tempest out of a teapot will say anything to try and be right.

 

Ok let me rephrase, not going hard when the ball isnt going to you or going away from you.....  which I provided multiple examples.  Keep watching any game since the Offense has been garbage.  

 

Anyways, proof is in the pudding.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, CaliBills said:

 

Ok let me rephrase, not going hard when the ball isnt going to you or going away from you.....  which I provided multiple examples.  Keep watching any game since the Offense has been garbage.  

 

Anyways, proof is in the pudding.

 

We're not talking about Josh scrambling to find a target or same side blocking to spring a player or a decoy route, we're talking about MEANINGLESS BLOCKS far away from the play. ANYONE can take all of the interceptions that Josh has thrown and make the case that he is a terrible QB with NO CONTEXT, ignoring all of the elements present in each INT throw. You're reaching with this premise...

Edited November 16, 2023 by EasternOHBillsFan

[JohnBonhamRocks]

9 minutes ago, CaliBills said:

 

Guess playing until the end of the whistle means nothing to him. Again playing selfishly.   But anyone with Rose colored glasses will make excuses.  

If you think Diggs’ blocking when he is across the field from the ball carrier is anywhere close to a problem for the Bills offense then I do not know what to do for you bud.

[CaliBills]

2 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

If you think Diggs’ blocking when he is across the field from the ball carrier is anywhere close to a problem for the Bills offense then I do not know what to do for you bud.

cool. but ok.  I watch and think to myself, why is he standing around.  so it is what it is.

 

Time to do other things. good talk

[vanislebills44]

1 hour ago, vanislebills44 said:

 

any1 who wants diggs gone without a viable replacement is nuts....

unless we luck out n draft a justin jefferson in the deal this is absurd...

if he wants out then do what ya can to placate him, as you dont want a cancer in the room

stats are facts, look at what him and allen have done together, to mess with that just for 'something to do' would b counter productive

[JerseyBills]

1 hour ago, CaliBills said:

 

This was just from the Bills vs Broncos Highlights.  Easy to watch and see.

 

Watch the first three plays of the Bills offense, Each time after someone else has the ball he stands around.  Each time.  Even the run block he half asses it cause it went the other way. no trying to sell it, nothing. Just eh here I put my arms on you.  "Good Enough".

 

Interception through Davis hands, even Dion ran over, no Diggs in site.  

 

That shows to me he is playing selfishly.

 

And another one

 

I thought I was the only 1 that noticed this, weekly, even on the fumble I was actually surprised to see Diggs hit the ground because his low effort/energy when not involved.  That's just pathetic effort on the int

[JerseyBills]

5 hours ago, Aimee75 said:

I honestly don't get why this is so hard for people to understand. If Stef was "bothered" by it, those tweets would be gone. When Maddy Glab had that off mic comment about Stefon circling on social media, Stef had no problem taking to social media to defend himself. Maybe others weren't paying attention, but I saw the "likes" of shade being thrown at Josh on his Twitter. He went back and unliked them, but it was a thing that happened. Josh flat out admitted that he and Stef had a quarrel in the off season, but that they were over it. Obviously, we are back to square one. What it boils down to is if Stefons brother can comfortably tweet unflattering stuff about JA, there is a reason he is so "comfortable" in doing so. 

 

There is a saying, when people show you who they are, believe them. 

 

I used to defend Diggs all the time, but can't anymore. He's still a great player, and sometimes even person, but he is extremely volatile and hot headed. Can turn on you in a dime. It is what it is with him. Obviously, he is still our best weapon, by a longshot.

That's an excellent point dude. Ya I have Diggs as my profile picture, he's awesome but over 9 months , with multiple sketchy situations, I'm finding it harder to just write it off as no big deal. That Maddy Glab situation is a great example and his silence speaks loud considering the whole team and nfl community is aware of the tweets. He could have just responded to the tweet with an eyeroll emoji or something 

5 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

I do agree that little bro bro running his mouth is bad look. IMO the Diggs stuff was over blown, but he could have simply sent 1 Tweet that would have stopped a whole offseason of speculation. 
 

Lil Diggs is publicly running his mouth, if Big Diggs wants to stay here hope he nips it. We will see. 
 

Lil Diggs bashing Allen publicly isn’t a good look. 

Exactly.  And even if he addressed the team, why not simply send 1 tweet to stop the media from giving it more attention.  It's almost becoming eerily similar to Vikings situation. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 hours ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Throughout the summer discontent with Josh rumbled on. Josh addresses it; Diggs decided to let it continue. He soon slaps down someone when she mishears something in Twitter. His brother mouths off against the franchise and his QB - any rebuttal? Any support for the Bills or the QB to counter it? Or is it just being allowed to brew further.

 

2 options:

 

1 - Talk to my brother... tell him to knock it off etc.  

 

2 - Post something on social media and really give this non-story some legs...

24 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

That's an excellent point dude. Ya I have Diggs as my profile picture, he's awesome but over 9 months , with multiple sketchy situations, I'm finding it harder to just write it off as no big deal. That Maddy Glab situation is a great example and his silence speaks loud considering the whole team and nfl community is aware of the tweets. He could have just responded to the tweet with an eyeroll emoji or something 

Exactly.  And even if he addressed the team, why not simply send 1 tweet to stop the media from giving it more attention.  It's almost becoming eerily similar to Vikings situation. 

 

That was more about usage and money.  He got paid here, and he gets the most targets in the league.  So what does he want? 

 

I'll tell ya this - they aren't trading him to the cowboys, and they aren't cutting him.  Is he going to be happy when all this gets him traded to the giants or packers?  

26 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

That's an excellent point dude. Ya I have Diggs as my profile picture, he's awesome but over 9 months , with multiple sketchy situations, I'm finding it harder to just write it off as no big deal. That Maddy Glab situation is a great example and his silence speaks loud considering the whole team and nfl community is aware of the tweets. He could have just responded to the tweet with an eyeroll emoji or something 

Exactly.  And even if he addressed the team, why not simply send 1 tweet to stop the media from giving it more attention.  It's almost becoming eerily similar to Vikings situation. 

 

Doing nothing will also make this fizzle out.  There's no football for 2 days, were the last team that played.  There's a pretty big game tonight, so i think it'll die out naturally.  

 

Sometimes PR will dictate a response, other times you can just address it behind the scenes and let it go.  

[UKBillFan]

4 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

2 options:

 

1 - Talk to my brother... tell him to knock it off etc.  

 

2 - Post something on social media and really give this non-story some legs...

 

That was more about usage and money.  He got paid here, and he gets the most targets in the league.  So what does he want? 

 

I'll tell ya this - they aren't trading him to the cowboys, and they aren't cutting him.  Is he going to be happy when all this gets him traded to the giants or packers?  

 

He doesn't even have to directly address his brother's tweets. Just come out with a standard pro-Buffalo/Allen tweet. But getting Trevon to remove those posts would probably be simpler.