TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Watch the fake Twitter accounts today everyone. I doubt we make any kind of move on a short week, but I’d be beyond shocked if Dorsey was on the staff after the bye week. I think Dorsey is canned and Pegs pays close attention to how the team rallies. They didn’t look like a group of guys fighting for their HC last night. 1 1 Quote
RunTheBall Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 I maintain that it all started with McDorsey neutering Josh’s running early in the season. Taking Josh’s running threat away completely disrupted Allen’s processing and mojo. I was never ok with that and now Allen is a complete head case (other reasons as well). 13 seconds 12 men It’s time for McD to go and take Dorsey with him. 1 2 Quote
ShakAttack Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Is it just me or did McDermott appear to be shaking with anger / twitchy in a few instances during the post-game interview. Despite throwing ppl under the bus, I actually appreciated the fact that McDermott showed some damn emotion for once, and was truthful in response to a certain questions he was asked. Doesn’t make him a better coach unfortunately, but I’m just saying it was a little easier to watch as opposed to the typically 100% predictable responses we get every week that never tell us anything. Quote
Billsatlastin2018 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Now we know that McClapper can neither count down from 13, nor count up to 12! 1 Quote
Bferra13 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, BRH said: Think of being a defensive player on the Bills and waking up this morning, nearly unable to crawl out of bed because you gave everything you had for 37 minutes and change last night, mostly defending your half of the field with little margin for error, only to have it ripped away from you at the end due to some of the worst coaching and execution possible in the other two phases, and a blindingly stupid zero blitz called on your last play, plus having to play 10-on-11 every time Von got wheeled out there, and thinking you have to do this all over again on a short week. It’s like being a fan, except the pain is physical as well as mental. Then I pull up my smartphone and look at my bank account balance... and all is right again... ahhh. 1 Quote
Bruffalo Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 I went to bed mad and disappointed, and I woke up mad and disappointed. I truly think Dorsey is the #1 problem with this team, and he should absolutely have been fired weeks ago. The #2 issue is almost just as bad though. Our HC is distracted running the defense and has been in no way "buttoned up" or "disciplined" like they preach. If he doesn't bring those qualities, arguably his only great qualities, then what good is he? I'm tired of rooting for a joke. There are so many teams doing more with less. Quote
JerseyBills Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 The 1 time we Don't defer and we cough it up 1st play lol 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: I went to bed mad and disappointed, and I woke up mad and disappointed. I truly think Dorsey is the #1 problem with this team, and he should absolutely have been fired weeks ago. The #2 issue is almost just as bad though. Our HC is distracted running the defense and has been in no way "buttoned up" or "disciplined" like they preach. If he doesn't bring those qualities, arguably his only great qualities, then what good is he? I'm tired of rooting for a joke. There are so many teams doing more with less. i made a thread on this, but wont bump it since there are so many new threads today. If I'm Pegula, the only way McD keeps his job today is if he fires BOTH coordinators and goes back to being the HC running the whole team and working the details. Fire Dorsey, move out of DC. Promote Shula/Brady to OC and Bobby Babich to DC for the rest of the year, and see how it goes. It will at least tell Pegula whether he needs to be starting the search for a new HC, or just new OC. 3 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: i made a thread on this, but wont bump it since there are so many new threads today. If I'm Pegula, the only way McD keeps his job today is if he fires BOTH coordinators and goes back to being the HC running the whole team and working the details. Fire Dorsey, move out of DC. Promote Shula/Brady to OC and Bobby Babich to DC for the rest of the year, and see how it goes. It will at least tell Pegula whether he needs to be starting the search for a new HC, or just new OC. He was supposed to be doing that when he had coordinators that were good. His attention to details is poor at best. Time for him to go. 1 Quote
Bruffalo Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: i made a thread on this, but wont bump it since there are so many new threads today. If I'm Pegula, the only way McD keeps his job today is if he fires BOTH coordinators and goes back to being the HC running the whole team and working the details. Fire Dorsey, move out of DC. Promote Shula/Brady to OC and Bobby Babich to DC for the rest of the year, and see how it goes. It will at least tell Pegula whether he needs to be starting the search for a new HC, or just new OC. I think the season is shot, so honestly whatever they do is just to stop the bleeding. Dorsey should have been gone before the Bengals game, but absolutely needed to be canned after. Last night was just more of the same disappointment. Dumb people will blame Allen, but it's a scheme issue and smarter people than me have shown it. Get him out of here before he breaks Allen's confidence any more. McD can stick around for the rest of the season and lead the tank, I don't care. After the season though he needs to be shown the door and we need to bring in an offensive HC who maximize Allen. Hell I'd be fine with bringing back Daboll if he gets canned, not my first choice but better than whatever the hell this is. 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 39 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: I maintain that it all started with McDorsey neutering Josh’s running early in the season. Taking Josh’s running threat away completely disrupted Allen’s processing and mojo. I was never ok with that and now Allen is a complete head case (other reasons as well). 13 seconds 12 men It’s time for McD to go and take Dorsey with him. It’s increasingly obvious this is the case. Some of the local Twitter analysts are already posting videos of plays. The Bills have a high school offense at best. Dorsey’s route trees and play designs are shockingly bad. 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 9 hours ago, Mango said: I am not sure it matters who the receiver is. The second INT was on Josh. Aikman said “every QB knows it”. Both Manning’s said the similar. You don’t throw that ball. it doesn’t - my point wasn’t that diggs catches it, but that when we are schematically messed up and expect Josh to make hero throws vs play like a turtle at some point it’s going to pay off with trash outcomes. I’m not absolving Josh but I do think it’s a hell of a lot more productive to change the coordinator and watch the outcomes change than any other route here - and I think it’s likely to see 5-10 of the head scratcher throws clear up near immediately with another oc Quote
1onemangang7 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 How does cook not score on his dribble drive. That's about all he's good for and 3 guys could catch him. Quote
BRH Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: i made a thread on this, but wont bump it since there are so many new threads today. If I'm Pegula, the only way McD keeps his job today is if he fires BOTH coordinators and goes back to being the HC running the whole team and working the details. Fire Dorsey, move out of DC. Promote Shula/Brady to OC and Bobby Babich to DC for the rest of the year, and see how it goes. It will at least tell Pegula whether he needs to be starting the search for a new HC, or just new OC. This is absolutely the right take. And if he doesn't do it, as you say, fire him right now. But one more thing: fire the ST coach too. Edited November 14, 2023 by BRH 1 Quote
Bangarang Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 There’s zero chance Dorsey and Smiley are coordinating on this team next year. I don’t think Dorsey makes it beyond the BYE week. McD must know he has to do something. 2 Quote
muppy Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Success said: Sign o' the times. I'm googling "how to stop being a sports fan"... I feel physically and emotionally hungover after last nights game. And I didn't drink any alcohol. Trying to forget, rationalize, keep a positive attitude all have their place in dealing with the suckage we saw play out last night. but right now I just feel defeated. At least there is a place we can all vent. The lack of control we fans have make all our angst futile as far as changing anything but our own mindset so what can I do at the top of my lungs in my own living room today? VENT. And google above. I bet it says "take up a different hobby. NO I'm not going to learn *&&%$%%^&&* knitting. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO smh Edited November 14, 2023 by muppy 1 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Did anyone else notice Hamlin in the slot at the end of the game, and looking pretty good in coverage? It was only 2-3 reps, but still. 1 Quote
Danger Mouse Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) I love following Buffalo, you know. I'm sure Superbowls are fun and all that. But the ride of following the Bills is something else. Even going to my first game in London and - within 10 minutes - seeing my favourite player, Milano, getting ended. I mean, you just can't account for all this can you? It's just the Buffalo way 🤣 Edited November 14, 2023 by Bill Grundy Quote
ngbills Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 8 hours ago, Big Turk said: I guess it was better getting their heads kicked in by 30 points on a weekly basis in those other years 3 times as frequently. Wrong team. The Bills always kept games close during the drought. That was without a QB. Give any of them Allen and the results are as good or better. Quote
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