pennstate10 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Not to mention the average drivestart for the Broncos in the game was their own 41!! That's inexcusable. Broncos scored on 6 points off 4 TO's, the Bills scored 7 off of their 1. Anyone blaming the defense is barking up the wrong tree. This game should have been a runaway victory for the Bills if they stopped turning the ball over. They averaged 7.1 yards per play on offense! Just stop turning it over and they win by 2 scores. Yeah,I get what you’re saying. But,ultimately, championship teams win because they rise to the moment. This defense doesn’t. Game after game, we lose at the gun because the defense can’t get a stop. It’s a pattern, and it’s a fact. 1 2 Quote
mannc Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, Comebackkid said: it is..its frustrating...the offense repeatedly hangs the Defense out to dry for 3 qtrs. Offense finally struggles enought to put some points up and then the D falls apart. its frusting that this has been a frequent theme this year. The D shouldnt choke and the Offense shouldnt be hanging them out to dry for 3 qtrs. There’s certainly a pattern here… 1 Quote
dgrochester55 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 All McDermott can say if "we need to practice more." Yeah, lets practice not putting twelve men on the field. Should you be on the field during the field goal block. No? Great! practice over! What a joke. This team goes nowhere until we clean house up top. Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Players were culpable for this loss. McDermott shouldn't be throwing anyone under the bus in his PC, but Allen was 100% responsible for 2 turnovers, Gabe Davis was 100% responsible for 1 turnover and James Cook was 100% responsible for 1 turnover. I guess I take the above back... Dorsey holds some responsibility for Allen’s 2nd interception. That's 3 games in a row that play has resulted in an interception. Predictable much? Regardless, I would also say it's on Bernard (he was the one in the back for the FG, right) to count the men on the line to make sure there weren't 12. But aside from that last missed then made field goal, the Bills had no business really even being in this game with all those turnovers on offense and crazy lopsided field position battle we lost. 1 Quote
Success Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 The Bills are part of my karma in life. I don't know what it is - but I did something pretty bad in a previous life. There is no other way to explain this. We have more "losses with names" than any team in any sport. 2 1 Quote
pennstate10 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: The offense turned the ball over 4 times. The defense was the only reason we were in this game at all. Yup, that’s true. But at the end, they couldn’t seal the deal. That’s a pattern. 1 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Pokebball said: If Josh handed the ball off every play tonight, we would probably have won the game. Who's fault is not running the ball more? Coaches need to see that and adjust. They didn't. We came out on our first possession in the 2nd half and pass, pass, pass, pass (turned the ball over on downs). Diggs dropped a pass. Fourth down was 4th and 1 and we threw the ball. All of this crap builds on individuals. Coaches put their players in positions to succeed (or not to succeed). It's been said numerous times these past three weeks. Coaching staff have lost the locker room. Players don't trust the coaches and their decisions. Of course execution suffers. Of course concentration suffers. And through all of that, the players lost the game tonight because of a coaching error, ending the game. Everyone knows that. The players, the owners, the fans. It got worse! You sure? Cook couldn't hold onto the football Quote
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Yeah,I get what you’re saying. But,ultimately, championship teams win because they rise to the moment. This defense doesn’t. Game after game, we lose at the gun because the defense can’t get a stop. It’s a pattern, and it’s a fact. When you are trying to rely on a defense down 5 starters including 2 all-pro's and likely the most important player on the D(DaQuan) and your D has kept you in there the entire game, it's kind of ridiculous to put anything on them. They were the only reason this game wasn't a blowout in favor of the Broncos. The Bills offense needs to stop handing the ball to the other team every game and punting 5 straight possessions. The whole point is you shouldn't be putting this defense in this position AT ALL in these type of games to begin with. Start doing your job on offense properly. Edited November 14, 2023 by Big Turk 1 Quote
Nihilarian Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Mistakes are killing this team. Josh Allen has turned into Sam Darnold...Ken Dorsey doesn't seem to be the answer on offense. All these losing teams playing Buffalo it's like their Super Bowl as they have watched the Bills in the playoffs the last few years and against all these teams the Bills no longer get overlooked. They study Buffalo hard and are overjoyed to beat them. Quote
Doc Brown Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, GreggTX said: If we start firing coaches, we look like an organization in disarray rather than a popular destination. We shouldn't have let our QB choose our OC. I'm sure they're real chummy, but Dorsey isn't ready to be an OC. Dorsey had interviewed for OC before so he wasn't just some guy Josh picked. Tonight wasn't on Dorsey though. Four turnovers, crucial drops, a bad game by Allen, and horrible special teams play did them in. Quote
DCBongo Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 I am not done with McD and Beane just yet. They are a package deal and just got extensions. Finding a good GM is tough and there are worse coaches. Besides Marv is to old. I'd say he is on a short leash for next year. He will need to get a new offensive coordinator and hire a defensive coordinator. I get it, the defense has been diminished by injury. Davis isn't the #2 they thought he would be. I am not carrying water for the team, it's just how I see it On the "bright" side, there is no where to go but up. 2 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Yeah,I get what you’re saying. But,ultimately, championship teams win because they rise to the moment. This defense doesn’t. Game after game, we lose at the gun because the defense can’t get a stop. It’s a pattern, and it’s a fact. Bingo. This is the 2nd game this season where the O, in spite of struggling for long periods of time, handed the D a lead with under 2 minutes left and the D could not close out the game. And the 2 offenses that drove down to field to beat the Bills in these games were not very good. They certainly weren't the 49's or Chiefs. Quote
OZBILLS Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, DCBongo said: I am not done with McD and Beane just yet. They are a package deal and just got extensions. Finding a good GM is tough and there are worse coaches. Besides Marv is to old. I'd say he is on a short leash for next year. He will need to get a new offensive coordinator and hire a defensive coordinator. I get it, the defense has been diminished by injury. Davis isn't the #2 they thought he would be. I am not carrying water for the team, it's just how I see it On the "bright" side, there is no where to go but up. Hi Sean, How are you tonight? 7 Quote
UKBillFan Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DCBongo said: I am not done with McD and Beane just yet. They are a package deal and just got extensions. Finding a good GM is tough and there are worse coaches. Besides Marv is to old. I'd say he is on a short leash for next year. He will need to get a new offensive coordinator and hire a defensive coordinator. I get it, the defense has been diminished by injury. Davis isn't the #2 they thought he would be. I am not carrying water for the team, it's just how I see it On the "bright" side, there is no where to go but up. I’d keep Beane - I think he is a decent GM. Both him and McDermott have a direct line to Pegula can axe the latter without involving the former. And that’s what he should do. Edited November 14, 2023 by UKBillFan Have, not gave 1 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Yup, that’s true. But at the end, they couldn’t seal the deal. That’s a pattern. And it's a pattern that has been true over the last few years. Quote
RiotAct Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Success said: The Bills are part of my karma in life. I don't know what it is - but I did something pretty bad in a previous life. There is no other way to explain this. We have more "losses with names" than any team in any sport. Wide Right Music City Miracle Just Give it To ‘Em 13 Seconds 12 Men what am I missing? 1 Quote
OZBILLS Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: I’d keep Beane - I think he is a decent GM. Both him and McDermott gave a direct line to Pegula can axe the latter without involving the former. And that’s what he should do. Bean is too narrow. Goes back to the Carolina well too often. It's running dry now and we're struggling. He has to go 1 Quote
DuckyBoys Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, RiotAct said: Wide Right Music City Miracle Just Give it To ‘Em 13 Seconds 12 Men what am I missing? hail murray josh slip and fall Leodis fumbles twice back to back Romo 5 int game Quote
RiotAct Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, DCBongo said: I am not done with McD and Beane just yet. They are a package deal and just got extensions. Finding a good GM is tough and there are worse coaches. Besides Marv is to old. I'd say he is on a short leash for next year. He will need to get a new offensive coordinator and hire a defensive coordinator. I get it, the defense has been diminished by injury. Davis isn't the #2 they thought he would be. I am not carrying water for the team, it's just how I see it On the "bright" side, there is no where to go but up. guys, we’ve got a live one! 2 Quote
Success Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, RiotAct said: Wide Right Music City Miracle Just Give it To ‘Em 13 Seconds 12 Men what am I missing? A lot of fans remember the "Dallas Monday NIght" game. The Cincy playoff game is kind of the "snow game." Quote
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