Bills need a Ben Johnson led Offense

[Antonio]

8 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

You cannot be serious with that.  That's not how things work in life or any other job that I have ever been a part of. 

 

Maybe hahaha 

 

Get yourself the job, let yourself call do what brought you the promotion and have somebody else handle the other stuff while you learn the in and outs. Then be Andy Reid hehehe. 

 

 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

42 minutes ago, Antonio said:

They guy seems to understand the game very well, he feels the game and knows when to take chances or exactly when to throw some wrinkles or gadget plays. 

 

If we part ways with McD, I would love the next head coach to be him.

 

If we stay put I hope Dorsey takes a good look at how he calls the game, ver very intelligent game plan and adjustments. 

He’s 9 games in to his rookie year of being an OC. HC is one hell of a jump. 
 

I’d be much more interested next year, but even two seasons as an OC is tough. 

[Antonio]

5 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

I give up. Wtf is a leed offense? 😳🤷‍♂️

 

Sorry bad english...

 

Leed / lead / I don´t know how it is. 

 

What I wanted to post was... Bills need an offense just like the one Ben Johnson runs. 

[Prospector]

We do need some speed, and those Canadian steroids do help! But does that carry over to coaching?

[Einstein]

Just now, Antonio said:

 

Sorry bad english...

 

Leed / lead / I don´t know how it is. 

 

What I wanted to post was... Bills need an offense just like the one Ben Johnson runs. 

 

Everyone knew your meant led. They’re just being jerks.

[billieve420]

I think McDermott sticks around for at least another season. I could see Pegula making a move before the new stadium opens in 2026 if team continues to underperform. However, if/when there is a new HC it should be someone on the offensive side of the ball to pair with the QB. I do think despite what has been said that Dorsey is on the hot seat and could be fired in the offseason if team fails to turn things around.

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

 

Everyone knew your meant led. They’re just being jerks.

This board has not hit the point when Einstein is the most rational poster. I mean, even FiltyBeast made a post today that was more measured than all of the "Trade Josh Allen" posts on here this week.

[Antonio]

22 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

I actually would want the OC from Houston. He runs the Kyle Shanahan system. Do you like running plays? Look at the crazy variety that they run in that system: https://sumersports.com/the-zone/shanahan-schemes/

 

 

I love a good running game, I hate the famous "delay hand off" with our speedy guy. Look how BJ uses Gibbs. 

 

I have not paid attention to Houston to be honest, but I will. 

 

Not that I´m looking forward to part ways with McD. I really would love for him to be THE ONE! The one that broke the drought, the one that brings the first Lombardy, etc... 

[section122]

8 minutes ago, Antonio said:

 

Wow, I didn´t realize that. 

 

I also agree that we have played some tough defenses. 

 

But if you watched the game yesterday, tell me you didn´t think to yourself "oh boy... thats exactly whats Josh needs" That 4th down TD play to the TE was a think of beauty, called at a perfect time. Have you seen how he uses LaPorta? Poor Kincaid only runs 5 yards routs and I think he is much better and far more athletic than LaPorta. 

 

 

I am impressed by the Lions.  One of my friends is a big fan so I try to watch when possible.  They have a much better oline and a much better rb room than the Bills.  Some of that is due to high draft picks being spent and they also made out like bandits when they traded Stafford.  

 

I have no ill will towards Johnson or the Lions I just think as you mentioned in a previous post, people don't live and die with other teams failures so they don't seem as big.  That shotgun run on 4th and 5 would spark an enormous thread on TSW for example even though it worked.

 

[Antonio]

7 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Everyone knew your meant led. They’re just being jerks.

Thanks!!
I really struggle with that one hehe.

11 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

He’s 9 games in to his rookie year of being an OC. HC is one hell of a jump. 
 

I’d be much more interested next year, but even two seasons as an OC is tough. 

 

It is a gamble, but someone will take it and could payoff very well. 

[Big Turk]

13 minutes ago, Antonio said:

 

Maybe hahaha 

 

Get yourself the job, let yourself call do what brought you the promotion and have somebody else handle the other stuff while you learn the in and outs. Then be Andy Reid hehehe. 

 

 

 

Not a chance in the bloody pit of Hades a team is going to hire a guy and pay him $6-8 million a year and then hire a "Nanny" for him on top of that because he is incompetent at 90% of the job.

[Antonio]

4 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

I am impressed by the Lions.  One of my friends is a big fan so I try to watch when possible.  They have a much better oline and a much better rb room than the Bills.  Some of that is due to high draft picks being spent and they also made out like bandits when they traded Stafford.  

 

I have no ill will towards Johnson or the Lions I just think as you mentioned in a previous post, people don't live and die with other teams failures so they don't seem as big.  That shotgun run on 4th and 5 would spark an enormous thread on TSW for example even though it worked.

 

 

True, I prolly have had a heart attack with that one. 

 

They do have that 1-2 punch a lot of teams envision.

10 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

I think McDermott sticks around for at least another season. I could see Pegula making a move before the new stadium opens in 2026 if team continues to underperform. However, if/when there is a new HC it should be someone on the offensive side of the ball to pair with the QB. I do think despite what has been said that Dorsey is on the hot seat and could be fired in the offseason if team fails to turn things around.

 

I fully expect a change at OC during the offseason. 

 

Love McD but he needs to be better at game management. That challenge was ridiculous. 

[TheWeatherMan]

21 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

Johnson has had some amazing games called this year.   I'm not knocking him buuuuuuttttt.... (the rest of my post is tongue in cheek)

 

 

He did call a shotgun run on 4th and 5 yesterday.  It did work but oh boy I could imagine this place if dorsey did the same.

 

The Lions offense has scored exactly 1 more point than the Bills through 9 games.

 

The opening game, the Lions offense scored 14 points against the Chiefs.  A pick 6 was the difference.

 

The Ben Johnson led offense scored 6 points vs the Ravens.  

 

The Ben Johnson led offense scored 20 against the Bucs (Dorsey 24) and 26 against the Raiders (Dorsey 38)

 

and just for fun, the Bills have the hardest schedule in the NFL while the Lions have the 26th hardest. http://powerrankingsguru.com/nfl/strength-of-schedule.php

 

Just some food for thought....

 

The lions OC is making their average Joe QB look like a top 5 QB.  Our OC is making a top 2 QB led offense look like the Giants offense from last night.  I know there’s more skill player athleticism on the Lions, but still our O is the worse it’s looked in 4+ years.  Honestly, Fitzmagic and Stevie Johnson under Chans offense were more exciting to watch than this unit 🤮 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Goff is flourishing under Johnson.

 

Imagine what Josh would do.

[Antonio]

4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Not a chance in the bloody pit of Hades a team is going to hire a guy and pay him $6-8 million a year and then hire a "Nanny" for him on top of that because he is incompetent at 90% of the job.

 

I know, I'm just messing around. But you do know that the Assistant HC position exist right?!

 

I don't know what they do or what their responsibilities are.

1 minute ago, TheWeatherMan said:

The lions OC is making their average Joe QB look like a top 5 QB.  Our OC is making a top 2 QB led offense look like the Giants offense from last night.  I know there’s more skill player athleticism on the Lions, but still our O is the worse it’s looked in 4+ years.  Honestly, Fitzmagic and Stevie Johnson under Chans offense were more exciting to watch than this unit 🤮 

Sad but true. The 3-4 games have been horrendous. Chan was a nice OC for us honeslty, he was very creative as well.  

[Low Positive]

6 minutes ago, Antonio said:

 

I love a good running game, I hate the famous "delay hand off" with our speedy guy. Look how BJ uses Gibbs. 

 

I have not paid attention to Houston to be honest, but I will. 

 

Not that I´m looking forward to part ways with McD. I really would love for him to be THE ONE! The one that broke the drought, the one that brings the first Lombardy, etc... 

You made me look something up. The Lions only ran 42% of their plays from the shotgun yesterday. The league average last season was 66%. They also had great balance, with 26 rushing attempts by RBs and 33 passing attempts. I didn't watch the game, so I'm just going on stats and the play sheet on NFL.com. That shows a play-caller in control of a game who didn't abandon the run. But then again, the Lions never trailed in that game.

[DCofNC]

They system they run on O would be absolutely awesome here, imagine a running game for 1, and picture Diggs in the St. Brown role, Kincaid as LaPorta and of course Allen as QB.  Play action opening up deep shots.. what a concept.

[Antonio]

1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said:

You made me look something up. The Lions only ran 42% of their plays from the shotgun yesterday. The league average last season was 66%. They also had great balance, with 26 rushing attempts by RBs and 33 passing attempts. I didn't watch the game, so I'm just going on stats and the play sheet on NFL.com. That shows a play-caller in control of a game who didn't abandon the run. But then again, the Lions never trailed in that game.

 

Their running game helps them to be balanced, and the snaps under center I think helps the RBs and keeps the D honest. 

 

They never trailed, but the Chargers were always there, pressing and right behind them. And then this happened:

 

... Game tide at 38. 4th and 2, field goal distance reached (ball at the LAC 26) kick that FG and you go up by 3 but you leave the Chargers 1:40 minutes to tie or win the game... Dan Campbell gambels and goes fo it. (Fully trusting Ben to call the right play). There is no way McD trust Dorsey to win the game.  

[DCofNC]

30 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

I think McDermott sticks around for at least another season. I could see Pegula making a move before the new stadium opens in 2026 if team continues to underperform. However, if/when there is a new HC it should be someone on the offensive side of the ball to pair with the QB. I do think despite what has been said that Dorsey is on the hot seat and could be fired in the offseason if team fails to turn things around.

I suspect McTeflon will stay another year, but he should have been fired after last season, so maybe one more complete washout here gets it done.  Something is going on behind the scenes, I have a feeling it gets REAL ugly in the off-season.  I would love to see a house cleaning and a re-set year.   Wasting Allen like this is criminal.

[DJB]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

There is no way of knowing whether successful NFL coordinators can be successful HCs.  More times than not they aren't.

Well if you don’t try old man how will

we ever know?