Colts vs Patriots in Frankfurt GameDay thread

[TheFunPolice]

6 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

I am not if they keep losing they will get one of the top two QBs.  (But a huge drop off after them and be a reach in the top 5) Then in the second round get a top OT or trade up and get one.. and with all the cap space sign a couple good WR to go with Douglas. The D is pretty good when healthy so not much needed there maybe another Edge with Judon. 

I think he resigns or retires at the end of the year. Some team will want him and trade with NE to get him. 

 

No upside for Belichick to retire because NE has his rights.

 

If he wants to continue coaching a firing is best for him so he's free to go wherever he wants and the new team doesn't have to give up picks

[Buffalo03]

3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

What makes that Mac Jones even worse is 1. He had time and could have stepped into the throw instead of fading away like he did and 2. The guy was WIDE OPEN!!

Well the game could have passed him by he is 71 after all. He doesn’t have the drive or the drive he once had.

The game hasn't past him by. I'm sure he still has the drive. He's just always been a trash head coach that got by with the greatest QB to ever play for 20 years. 

Edited November 12, 2023 by Buffalo03

[Low Positive]

I'm not saying that Mac Jones is a good QB, but you cannot expect a young player to develop with three different OCs in three years. BTW, I think that Josh McDaniels will be the OC the next time the Pats play after the bye. They have to see if he can get Mac back to the rookie year form.

Michael Irvin can't stop interrupting his co-hosts. 

[Huh? What?]

New England needs a reset.... Don't know the dynamics.... but, back in the '80's we the Bills and the Pats were bottom feeders, trust me I was a season ticket holder and the best part of the game was just getting drunk... and boy, we did.... Don't know what NE is going to do, but they need a new voice. They are are going to be force if going forward.... if the the figure what needs to be done... not unlike what the Bills have done. 

Edited November 12, 2023 by Huh? What?
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[C.Biscuit97]

Losing to that dork Mac Jones might be the worst loss of the Allen era. I just keep having visions of those nerds doing the griddy on us. I’m now furious again. 

[Beast]

6 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

What makes that Mac Jones even worse is 1. He had time and could have stepped into the throw instead of fading away like he did and 2. The guy was WIDE OPEN!!

Well the game could have passed him by he is 71 after all. He doesn’t have the drive or the drive he once had.

NFL Network has it right. The Patriots are reaping what the sowed with Mac Jones. The OC situation he had to put up

with is nothing short of embarrassing.

[PromoTheRobot]

I'd be laughing at the Patriots, but they beat us, didn't they.

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, Huh? What? said:

New England needs a reset.... Don't know the dynamics.... but, back in the '80's we the Bills and the Pats were bottom feeders, trust me I was a season ticket holder and the best part of the game was just getting drunk... and boy, we did.... Don't what NE is going to do, but they need a new voice. They are are going to be force if going forward.... if the the figure what needs to be done... not unlike what the Bills have done. 

They are the Jauron Bills (actually worst). They won’t hit complete rock bottom to get a franchise changing qb so they will settle for scrubs like Jones. 
 

I’ve never been happier than when they picked him. Dude for propped up by superstars at every position and he acts like he’s Brady. 

[PatsFanNH]

4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

No upside for Belichick to retire because NE has his rights.

 

If he wants to continue coaching a firing is best for him so he's free to go wherever he wants and the new team doesn't have to give up picks

What’s best for him is a year off for owners to forget this disaster then want to hire him.   Unless the Giants HC job opens up

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, Beast said:

NFL Network has it right. The Patriots are reaping what the sowed with Mac Jones. The OC situation he had to put up

with is nothing short of embarrassing.

He’s worst this year with Bill O’Brien. Dude has like 5 good games in the nfl. He was never going to be good.

Just now, PatsFanNH said:

What’s best for him is a year off for owners to forget this disaster then want to hire him.   Unless the Giants HC job opens up

He will get hired the second they fire him. While this provides that the “Patriot Way” was basically having Brady, man boobs is still a good coach. Just an awful GM. If he went to a team with a good GM and qb, he’d be great.

[PatsFanNH]

3 minutes ago, Beast said:

NFL Network has it right. The Patriots are reaping what the sowed with Mac Jones. The OC situation he had to put up

with is nothing short of embarrassing.

1st and 3rd year OC are very similar, his 2nd year was unacceptable. That said this right now is on Jones and not the OC the plays are there and the reason he was drafted was his football IQ which seems to have vanished.

[BuffaloBillyG]

9 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

I am not if they keep losing they will get one of the top two QBs.  (But a huge drop off after them and be a reach in the top 5) Then in the second round get a top OT or trade up and get one.. and with all the cap space sign a couple good WR to go with Douglas. The D is pretty good when healthy so not much needed there maybe another Edge with Judon. 

I think he resigns or retires at the end of the year. Some team will want him and trade with NE to get him. 

Not for nothing, but this is the ultimate "fan vision" post. Here's what may be a bit more closer to the truth about what the reality is.

 

Belichick really has nothing left in trade value. Look at his age. Look at what he's done lately. Would take a special kind of stupid to move assets for that combination. Add in the fact that if the Patriots are wanting to move on you wait it out and call the bluff. Days tick by and decisions have to be made...you force Krafts hand in this. 

[PatsFanNH]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Not for nothing, but this is the ultimate "fan vision" post. Here's what may be a bit more closer to the truth about what the reality is.

 

Belichick really has nothing left in trade value. Look at his age. Look at what he's done lately. Would take a special kind of stupid to move assets for that combination. Add in the fact that if the Patriots are wanting to move on you wait it out and call the bluff. Days tick by and decisions have to be made...you force Krafts hand in this. 

Hey a man can hope for a team to do something stupid and offer us picks for BB right!? I mean teams do dumb things all the time. 

[Buffalo03]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

The game hasn't past him by. I'm sure he still has the drive. He's just always been a trash head coach that got by with the greatest QB to ever play for 20 years. 

People that disagree with me on this forget that he had 6 full seasons of being a head coach before he had Brady to bail him out. 4 losing seasons out of 5 in Cleveland and 1 losing season before Brady in NE. It is what it is. It's not just what he has done post Brady. How do you look at 2 playoff seasons out of 11 full seasons coached, about to be 12 and say "yep. Greatest ever". He is trash. I have no clue how you see otherwise

[CNYfan]

It seems that the Colts O ran more efficiently through Zach Moss.   He was a hot back before Taylor came back.  

[RiotAct]

14 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

I'm not saying that Mac Jones is a good QB, but you cannot expect a young player to develop with three different OCs in three years. BTW, I think that Josh McDaniels will be the OC the next time the Pats play after the bye. They have to see if he can get Mac back to the rookie year form.

His rookie year form?  So, just bad instead of really bad?

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

 

I don’t agree.

 

Patriots scored 17 points against a Commanders defense that we put 37 points on.

 

Patriots scored 17 points against a Dolphins defense that we hung nearly 50 points on.

 

Patriots scored (you guessed it) 17 points against a Raiders defense we put 38 points on.

 

Patriots scored 0 points against a Saints defense that gave up 26 points to the Bucs, 27 points to the Colts, 31 points to the Jags, etc.

 

 

Unless you’re telling me that we are in the worst defense in the NFL without Ed, Milano and Tre, then we simply played and coached like crap that final drive against NE.

One of the worst for sure…I’m not even sure it’s debatable.  We absolutely nosedived in all the big defensive metrics in that stretch post jax despite seeing almost entirely bottom third offenses.  The giants offense is historically horrendous also and it is by the grace of god they didn’t put up 20+ on us.  It’s not like it was just the pats game.  
 

not saying it should be an excuse for anyone…people can hate whoever they want as much as they want whether it be coaches or players lol.  But talent wise we were ‘out’ arguably our 5 best defensive players 

 

we focused a lot on the saints for some reason haha so I’ll continue that.  Who was our Demario Davis when we played the pats? 
who was our cam Jordan? Paulson Adebo is playing out of his mind also. 
We didn’t have anyone in the same zip code of that much talent in that pats game

 

[Roundybout]

27 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Gerdner minshew is the new Fitz 

I think that’s Josh Dobbs tbh

[FireChans]

14 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

They are the Jauron Bills (actually worst). They won’t hit complete rock bottom to get a franchise changing qb so they will settle for scrubs like Jones. 
 

I’ve never been happier than when they picked him. Dude for propped up by superstars at every position and he acts like he’s Brady. 

They are currently picking #3.

[JMM]

They lost to that dumpster fire of a team. Incredible.