Josh Allen Fined for the Taunting Penalty

[Southern_Bills]

2 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

He should do this every running TD

I would, even imitate writing a check afterwards in the end zone. 🤷

[Buffalo Barbarian]

No Fun League

 

 

[Bob Jones]

8 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

How do you attribute Josh’s behavior to the coaches versus his own instincts and actions on the play?  If your kid does something to get in trouble, is it automatically the parents’ fault?

Yes, it has been generally acknowledged FOREVER that when players do unnecessary, “dumb” fouls, it is a reflection of bad coaching….often referred to as a “poorly disciplined” team. If you’ve been a fan of pro sports for any length of time, I’m certain that you’ve heard the latter phrases articulated by pundits and observers (in all sports, not just football).

 

The parent/child example you cite actually supports my view, as it has been shown time and again, in many studies & surveys, that children who are brought up with little or no discipline imposed upon them by their parents (or their single parent) are more likely to end up in trouble/jail vs kids that had two parents who did impose rules AND enforce them.

 

Finally, being accused of being a troll just because I have an unpopular opinion is just laughable and nonsensical. I would agree that I’m not a prolific poster like many in here are, but I don’t “only pop up after a Bills’ loss.” However, there are MANY real trolls in here who display the LAMP technique often. You see the latter folks front & center after a Bills’ game, when they feel compelled to start their own post game thread, even though there is an established post game thread for everyone’s use. But their LAMP need is too strong, I guess.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

This season 17s total $$$ is around 18.6 mil.

 

Conservatively let’s say he sees half of that (9 mil). An 11k fine would then roughly impact his finances similar to how a $60 ticket would effect someone who takes home 50k.

 

Regardless of how you feel about the call, I always find it bizarre how offended some people get that the millionaires must pay pocket change for on field incidents (one that he was completely in control of). 
 

Im sure Allen cares less about the fine than many fans

[Beast]

40 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

This season 17s total $$$ is around 18.6 mil.

 

Conservatively let’s say he sees half of that (9 mil). An 11k fine would then roughly impact his finances similar to how a $60 ticket would effect someone who takes home 50k.

 

Regardless of how you feel about the call, I always find it bizarre how offended some people get that the millionaires must pay pocket change for on field incidents (one that he was completely in control of). 
 

Im sure Allen cares less about the fine than many fans

Actually, no.

 

A person making 50k a year needs that 60 dollars a hell of a lot more than the guy making 9 million a year needs that 11k because I guarantee you the man making 50k a year is spending up to what he makes to make ends meet where the guy making 9 million isn’t.

Edited November 12, 2023 by Beast

[PatsFanNH]

9 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

If Goodell is in attendance and Josh points at him during a TD run, is that allowed?

Depends on which finger he uses to point at him. He doesn’t seem to like the one in the middle much.. lol 

[gjv]

Not one of Josh's better decisions.

[machine gun kelly]

7 hours ago, Special K said:

Josh should try a "double point" this week, and see if they fine him $22,000.

 

You guys are getting me to a point to start watching the Office.  I’m probably the last guy on the planet to see it.  My eldest son has it as his favorite show.

[strive_for_five_guy]

1 hour ago, Bob Jones said:

Yes, it has been generally acknowledged FOREVER that when players do unnecessary, “dumb” fouls, it is a reflection of bad coaching….often referred to as a “poorly disciplined” team. If you’ve been a fan of pro sports for any length of time, I’m certain that you’ve heard the latter phrases articulated by pundits and observers (in all sports, not just football).

 

The parent/child example you cite actually supports my view, as it has been shown time and again, in many studies & surveys, that children who are brought up with little or no discipline imposed upon them by their parents (or their single parent) are more likely to end up in trouble/jail vs kids that had two parents who did impose rules AND enforce them.

 

Finally, being accused of being a troll just because I have an unpopular opinion is just laughable and nonsensical. I would agree that I’m not a prolific poster like many in here are, but I don’t “only pop up after a Bills’ loss.” However, there are MANY real trolls in here who display the LAMP technique often. You see the latter folks front & center after a Bills’ game, when they feel compelled to start their own post game thread, even though there is an established post game thread for everyone’s use. But their LAMP need is too strong, I guess.

First, it wasn’t me that accused you

of being a troll.  I appreciate that you’ve defended your position, some of the trolls don’t even offer that much.

 

With regards to team discipline or parenting, I agree that a result of a poorly coached team can be consistent, dumb penalties.  But, even when a coach or parent has done a great job trying to instill discipline, the players and kids can still do things they shouldn’t.  
 

As someone who has played and watched sports FOREVER, there are a lot of factors that go into all of this and Josh pointing at another defender is just one incident.  If the player were some borderline starter, maybe McD can discipline that player by putting them on the bench next series.  A lot harder to do that with their star QB though, so maybe there’s other ways McD needs to handle that.  At least in this case, Josh didn’t do it again the rest of the game, so as to not get kicked out.  

I’ll be surprised if he does it again this season.  If he does, do you think it will be because the coaches haven’t told him not to, or because he’s Josh and either deciding to do his own thing or his instincts take over?

[Livinginthepast]

Did Allen actually acknowledge that what we did was taunting? My first thought when I watched that play was that Allen was pointing at the defender to confuse him for a split second in order to make it to the endzone untouched. What would he have been fined if he gave him a middle finger? or open palmed him ? waved bye bye? This league and its officiating arent just incompetent, they are really, really dumb.

[NoSaint]

9 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

I understand many are upset about it. My guess similar to the NHL they have a limit on how much a player can be fined 

its generally an nflpa negotiated schedule for most basic fines 

[Low Positive]

As someone pointed out above, it's an automatic fine for a taunting penalty. The league didn't fine him, the refs did when they made that call. For anyone who says that "they always make that call," there was no taunting call on this play (Tyreek Hill TD in the 13-second game).

 

[Saxum]

11 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Allen pointed at a Bengals player as he was punching in a rushing touchdown to tie the score in the first quarter. He was hit with a 15-yard penalty for the incident. The signal-caller went 26-for-38 with 258 yards, a touchdown and an interception through the air while carrying the ball eight times for 44 yards.

Cincinnati ultimately won the game by a score of 24-18.

 

 

I wonder how much he would have been fined giving experimental New York Salute to Roger Goodell in owner's box?

[RiotAct]

10 hours ago, stuvian said:

This league is becoming more effeminate by the day 

[Saxum]

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

You guys are getting me to a point to start watching the Office.  I’m probably the last guy on the planet to see it.  My eldest son has it as his favorite show.

 

Only part of The Office are snips automatically played on sites which you have no control over. 

Some sites I use a browser with video disables since some of the automatic videos (snips and ads) become so annoying.

[MPT]

2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

This season 17s total $$$ is around 18.6 mil.

 

Conservatively let’s say he sees half of that (9 mil). An 11k fine would then roughly impact his finances similar to how a $60 ticket would effect someone who takes home 50k.

 

Regardless of how you feel about the call, I always find it bizarre how offended some people get that the millionaires must pay pocket change for on field incidents (one that he was completely in control of). 
 

Im sure Allen cares less about the fine than many fans

 

Totally agree with what you're saying, but the fact that Taylor-Britt didn't get fined for his outrageously dangerous slide tackle exemplifies either a broken system or extreme bias in the execution of the system.

[T master]

The refs are the ones that need to be fined for making such a BS call in the first place i think that was the first time in NFL history that that particularly ignorant decision on a call was made in a actual game ...

 

And the NFL hasn't made a reply on just how stupid it was as to not draw more attention to it !! 

[H2o]

Josh should be like, "You want it? Go fetch, Roger."

 

[Low Positive]

16 minutes ago, MPT said:

 

Totally agree with what you're saying, but the fact that Taylor-Britt didn't get fined for his outrageously dangerous slide tackle exemplifies either a broken system or extreme bias in the execution of the system.

That slide tackle probably gets a straight red card in a footy match. All Kincaid needed to do was flop to the ground and roll around like he was shot. 

[BlazinBill]

I mean the NFL is run by jackwagons and this fine means nothing to JA17- it's essentially less than a parking ticket to him - I would say why don't we start winning and executing an actual NFL offense with success again before talking ***** though