Josh Allen Fined for the Taunting Penalty

[Scott7975]

Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen has been fined $10,927 for taunting during his team’s loss to the Cincinnati Bengals last Sunday, via Michael David Smith of Pro Football Talk.

Allen pointed at a Bengals player as he was punching in a rushing touchdown to tie the score in the first quarter. He was hit with a 15-yard penalty for the incident. The signal-caller went 26-for-38 with 258 yards, a touchdown and an interception through the air while carrying the ball eight times for 44 yards.

Cincinnati ultimately won the game by a score of 24-18.

Allen’s fine is peculiar, considering other players received lesser penalties for unnecessary roughness fouls. The fact that he was fined more for pointing at someone than other players were for plays that could have caused injury is certainly strange, to say the least.

Then again, the NFL has been widely criticized for quite some time now for the way it hands out penalties and fines, so the weird variance shouldn’t come as much of a surprise.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bills-josh-allen-fined-for-taunting-during-bengals-loss/ar-AA1jMnwe?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=72356b63b82c4d3a8525dd5d101d9ca6&ei=47

 

Such a joke

[Warcodered]

Did there happen to be a fine for any baseball style slides into player's legs last week?

Edited November 12, 2023 by Warcodered

[Bob Jones]

Re the taunting by JA: Just another example of a poorly coached team.

[Scott7975]

7 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Did there happen to be a fine for any baseball style slides into player's legs last week?

 

Only Bengals fine I seen in the list was this one: Bengals, Cordell Volson, unnecessary roughness, $5,746.

[Dablitzkrieg]

I mean that makes sense.   Double what the cheap shot was that caused Hyde to be out this week.  ***** this league 

[LABILLBACKER]

9 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Did there happen to be a fine for any baseball style slides into player's legs last week?

None....tyreeks little peace sign...none....the NFL is a cartoon league.

[strive_for_five_guy]

13 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

Re the taunting by JA: Just another example of a poorly coached team.

How do you attribute Josh’s behavior to the coaches versus his own instincts and actions on the play?  If your kid does something to get in trouble, is it automatically the parents’ fault?

[Dr.Sack]

He should do this every running TD

[Bills!Win!]

I hope he does it again to the bengals in the playoffs (if we make it) 

[Scott7975]

5 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

He should do this every running TD

 

He can't because in NFL wisdom, two taunting penalties or a taunting penalty and another personal foul is a game ejection.

[Your Brown Eye]

I'm donating 17 cents to his charity to stick it to Roger Goodell

[strive_for_five_guy]

If Goodell is in attendance and Josh points at him during a TD run, is that allowed?

[stuvian]

This league is becoming more effeminate by the day 

[78thealltimegreat]

22 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

How do you attribute Josh’s behavior to the coaches versus his own instincts and actions on the play?  If your kid does something to get in trouble, is it automatically the parents’ fault?

He’s a troll only pops out weeks when the bills lose a game 

[Zag20]

To be fair Nick Scott went on IR for hurt feelings.

[Jrb1979]

1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

I mean that makes sense.   Double what the cheap shot was that caused Hyde to be out this week.  ***** this league 

I understand many are upset about it. My guess similar to the NHL they have a limit on how much a player can be fined 

[That's No Moon]

Getting fined for taunting in a game where you ultimately got beat down is amusing and probably indicative of the actual problem.

[Tuco]

A lot of people seem to think the NFL just dishes out fines without them making sense. And it does appear that way. But there's a schedule they follow that's all agreed to in the CBA. And that's why sometimes some fines which seem for worse offenses are for less money.

 

The agreed to amount for the first offense for taunting is $10,000. Then all fines are increased by a certain percentage each year of the CBA. So this year the first offense taunting fine is $10,927. That's where Josh's fine amount comes from.

 

So okay, we look at that and say, hey last week Adam Gotsis from Jacksonville was only fined $7,167 for roughing the passer. That just seems stupid. The NFL is whack we say.

 

Well, there's a reason for it. The first offense fine for roughing the passer is $15,000. That's $5,000 more than the taunting penalty - and most would agree rightly so. So how come Gotsis was only fined $7,167? Well, the CBA also has other stipulations that recognize the fact that some players make a lot more money than others. So they have a caveat at the bottom of the schedule for fines that says, "No first offense may result in the imposition of a baseline fine in excess of 10% of a player’s Salary Cap Count for the game."

 

So there you have it. Gotsis's more egregious foul is reduced to less of a fine than Josh's because Gotsis's salary cap for the season is $1,315,000. Divided by 18 weeks that makes his salary cap figure for the game $73,055. This is using Spotrac, so it's likely not exact. But you get the idea. Using the parameters agreed to by the NFL and the NFLPA, Gotsis's fine is only$7,167 - the maximum 10% of his weekly salary cap figure.

 

Is this how it should be? Debatable I suppose. Is it fair? Again, debatable. But it is the way it's supposed to be according to the agreed upon rules. The point being, the league doesn't just pull numbers out of its hat willy nilly when imposing fines - regardless of what many people (including the original article author from NFL Analysis Network) seem to think.

[Doc]

47 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Getting fined for taunting in a game where you ultimately got beat down is amusing and probably indicative of the actual problem.

Yes, a six point “beat down.”  Where numerous missed or bogus calls could have affected the outcome.  But hey, they got the taunting call…

[Special K]

Josh should try a "double point" this week, and see if they fine him $22,000.