Rigotz Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Out of curiosity, I pulled up Reception leaders this year at the Tight End position vs Targets. The numbers match the eye test. It looks like this: 1. T.J. Hockenson 60 Receptions on 80 Targets -- 75% 2. Travis Kelce 57 Receptions on 72 Targets -- 79% 3. Evan Engram 51 Receptions on 61 Targets -- 84% 4. Sam LaPorta 43 Receptions on 59 Targets -- 73% 5. Mark Andrews 41 Receptions on 55 Targets -- 75% 6. Cole Kmet 41 Receptions on 50 Targets -- 82% 7. Dalton Kincaid 40 Receptions on 45 Targets -- 89% 8. Dallas Goedert 38 Receptions on 52 Targets -- 73% 9. Darren Waller 36 Receptions on 51 Targets -- 71% 10. Jonnu Smith 34 Receptions on 42 Targets -- 81% Very happy that we're feeding him and we should continue to, because his reception rate is best in the entire position. 14 12 11 Quote
MPL Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Now we just need him to stop trying to dive over every defender in his path. I appreciate the extra effort but getting himself upended like in the cinci game is going to result in more fumbles. 1 8 Quote
Rigotz Posted November 9, 2023 Author Posted November 9, 2023 Also exciting to note, as I was researching this statistic. All time rookie record for receptions: #1) 81 receptions -- Keith Jackson in 1988 #2) 74 receptions -- Jeremy Shockey in 2022 #3) 68 receptions -- Kyle Pitts in 2021 #4) 64 receptions -- Evan Engram in 2017 At the halfway point of the season, Kincaid is on pace to break the record. 7 7 Quote
dave mcbride Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Out of curiosity, I pulled up Reception leaders this year at the Tight End position vs Targets. The numbers match the eye test. It looks like this: 1. T.J. Hockenson 60 Receptions on 80 Targets -- 75% 2. Travis Kelce 57 Receptions on 72 Targets -- 79% 3. Evan Engram 51 Receptions on 61 Targets -- 84% 4. Sam LaPorta 43 Receptions on 59 Targets -- 73% 5. Mark Andrews 41 Receptions on 55 Targets -- 75% 6. Cole Kmet 41 Receptions on 50 Targets -- 82% 7. Dalton Kincaid 40 Receptions on 45 Targets -- 89% 8. Dallas Goedert 38 Receptions on 52 Targets -- 73% 9. Darren Waller 36 Receptions on 51 Targets -- 71% 10. Jonnu Smith 34 Receptions on 42 Targets -- 81% Very happy that we're feeding him and we should continue to, because his reception rate is best in the entire position. He's a really good player. It's pretty obvious by now. Great pick. 2 11 1 Quote
wppete Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Josh needs to target him 10-15 times a game. With almost a 90% catch rate it’s a no. Rainer. Enough with the nonsense Dorsey and Josh! 3 3 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Also exciting to note, as I was researching this statistic. All time rookie record for receptions: #1) 81 receptions -- Keith Jackson in 1988 #2) 74 receptions -- Jeremy Shockey in 2022 #3) 68 receptions -- Kyle Pitts in 2021 #4) 64 receptions -- Evan Engram in 2017 At the halfway point of the season, Kincaid is on pace to break the record. Also, I believe the Buffalo Bills team record for rookie receptions is 65 by Sammy Watkins. He should obliterate that if healthy Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, wppete said: Josh needs to target him 10-15 times a game. With almost a 90% catch rate it’s a no. Rainer. Enough with the nonsense Dorsey and Josh! Did you say with a 90% catch rate, it's a no? Come on! Who is Rainer? He seems to be above Dorsey and Josh. 8 1 Quote
dorquemada Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 he's smooth as silk too, can catch a ball thrown behind him without going down 1 Quote
juno999 Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Kincaid is a very strong addition to the offense. Hopefully Beane will a draft a WR early this upcoming draft. 4 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Also exciting to note, as I was researching this statistic. All time rookie record for receptions: #1) 81 receptions -- Keith Jackson in 1988 #2) 74 receptions -- Jeremy Shockey in 2022 #3) 68 receptions -- Kyle Pitts in 2021 #4) 64 receptions -- Evan Engram in 2017 At the halfway point of the season, Kincaid is on pace to break the record. It's going to look a lot different too. I think he's going to continue being featured like he has the last few weeks. I think he could get to 1,000 yards. He's at 339 yards now and the first few weeks, he was getting very little in the yardage department. He would need to average 82 yards receiving in the last 8. I think he can do it. 2 Quote
racketmaster Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Unfortunately when Knox returns it is likely 4-5 of Kincade’s targets will go to Knox 🤦♂️ 1 Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, racketmaster said: Unfortunately when Knox returns it is likely 4-5 of Kincade’s targets will go to Knox 🤦♂️ Hence WHY the coaching staff IS ALWAYS UNDER FIRE.... they are screwing the pooch. 1 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, racketmaster said: Unfortunately when Knox returns it is likely 4-5 of Kincade’s targets will go to Knox 🤦♂️ I don't think this happens. Kincaid will establish himself as the #2 guy behind Diggs. Kincaid will pull balls away from Diggs, Shakir and Davis...but Diggs still the most targeted. Knox will get his 2-3 a game. 1 Quote
mannc Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 I think Kincaid had his first drop Sunday night, on a 95 mph fastball from Josh in the first quarter. I'd also like to see us mix in some more downfield throws to him...but yeah, one of the few bright spots on offense this year. 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, MPL said: Now we just need him to stop trying to dive over every defender in his path. I appreciate the extra effort but getting himself upended like in the cinci game is going to result in more fumbles. Considering our line is getting moved in the run game, and beat up in the passing game... it's really one of our only routes to physicality. You can maybe use murray/fournette on some plays, but I do think in the same way running the ball is tough on DBs, tackling huge tight ends is also a way to beat those DBs up a bit. Quote
Nihilarian Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Kalir Shakir has 19 targets, 18 receptions a 94.7 catch percentage. With a success percentage of 84.2 3 1 2 Quote
MJS Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, MPL said: Now we just need him to stop trying to dive over every defender in his path. I appreciate the extra effort but getting himself upended like in the cinci game is going to result in more fumbles. That was a fluke. The defender punched the ball out perfectly. Just a good defensive play. 1 3 1 Quote
boyst Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Also exciting to note, as I was researching this statistic. All time rookie record for receptions: #1) 81 receptions -- Keith Jackson in 1988 #2) 74 receptions -- Jeremy Shockey in 2022 #3) 68 receptions -- Kyle Pitts in 2021 #4) 64 receptions -- Evan Engram in 2017 At the halfway point of the season, Kincaid is on pace to break the record. 🤔 2 1 Quote
jlgarsh Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Considering our line is getting moved in the run game, and beat up in the passing game... it's really one of our only routes to physicality. You can maybe use murray/fournette on some plays, but I do think in the same way running the ball is tough on DBs, tackling huge tight ends is also a way to beat those DBs up a bit. He already had the first down when he tried diving over the guy. Would have been a first regardless. Rookie mistake but he'll be fine. 1 2 Quote
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