NFL Needs to Recognize Pre-Super Bowl Era

[DrBob806]

If they did that, Steelers fans would be upset. 

 

The only solace I got from the Patriots run was how bad it pissed off the world's most stupid fan base, Pittsburgh. They think the league started in 1972.

[Mikie2times]

3 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:

What about the 1921 Buffalo All-Americans, staring player-coach Tommy Hughitt. They was robbed too. This guy can play for my squad any day.

What kind of squad are you putting together there?

 

[Low Positive]

16 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

What kind of squad are you putting together there?

 

A squad with pluck and gumption to run my single-wing offense with power and determination to win the slobberknockers. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

4 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:

What about the 1921 Buffalo All-Americans, staring player-coach Tommy Hughitt. They was robbed too. This guy can play for my squad any day.

 

 

"You can't spell H-U-G-E, without a great big hug, from Hughitt!"

 

Was the line back in the day.

 

 

[WotAGuy]

I believe the NFL adopted all of the AFL team records and statistics, but I don’t know how they could recognize the AFL champions because it conflicts with the NFL concurrent champions. Anything prior to about the mid-1980s is ancient history for most of the current fan base. 

[stuvian]

don't forget the Steagles who are already in the bad name HOF

[Real McClappy]

5 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:

They guys need to avenge their 0-1 pro NFL record. 

http://blog.buffalostories.com/tag/tonawanda-kardex/

Edited November 9, 2023 by Real McNasty

[90sBills]

7 hours ago, mjt328 said:

 

The Bills last championship was in 1965.  

 

Let’s get a relevant championship from this century. Superbowl or doesn’t count!

[Low Positive]

7 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Let’s get a relevant championship from this century. Superbowl or doesn’t count!

Well if that's a bar, then the Cowboys and Dolphins suck too. That makes me feel a little bit better.

11 minutes ago, Real McNasty said:

They guys need to avenge their 0-1 pro NFL record. 

http://blog.buffalostories.com/tag/tonawanda-kardex/

Lace up the helmets and let's go boys. Let's beat em like we did the Kaiser!

[90sBills]

35 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Well if that's a bar, then the Cowboys and Dolphins suck too. That makes me feel a little bit better.

Not me. Bills have had more success the last 5 years than both those teams this century. 

[JoPoy88]

8 hours ago, mjt328 said:

One of my frustrations with the NFL, is the refusal to recognize championships from before Super Bowl I occurred.

Professional football in the NFL goes back to 1920.  Not 1967.

Here are some facts that not everyone may know:

 

The Green Bay Packers have actually won more championships (13 overall) than both the New England Patriots and Pittsburgh Steelers combined.

The Chicago Bears have the second-most championships (9) out of anyone in the NFL.

 

Several teams who have never won a Super Bowl, have actually won multiple championships before that era began.  They include the Cleveland Browns (4), Detroit Lions (4), Buffalo Bills (2) and Tennessee Titans/Houston Oilers (2).  As a fan of the Bills, I know the frustration that exists over never hoisting the Lombardi Trophy and awful feeling like they will never get it done.  I often wonder if some of that could be alleviated if the NFL would just acknowledge more than 56 years of league history.

 

The Bills last championship was in 1965.  They have two overall.

The New York Jets last championship was in 1969.  They have one overall.

The Miami Dolphins last championship was in 1974.  They have two overall.

 

Pre-merger “NFL” is not the NFL.

[RiotAct]

5 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:

Well if that's a bar, then the Cowboys and Dolphins suck too. That makes me feel a little bit better.

Lace up the helmets and let's go boys. Let's beat em like we did the Kaiser!

over the edge, into the breach!!!

 

🎵It’s a long way, to Tipperarryyyyy… 🎶

[Albany,n.y.]

4 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

Pre-merger “AFL” is not the NFL.

Corrected

[JoPoy88]

5 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Corrected

pretty much yes - the absence of the AFL in the NFL pre-merger means the two do not equate today.

[BigDingus]

Individual teams can recognize their pre-Super Bowl championships, but the league shouldn't elevate those to the same level of actual Super Bowl championships.

 

With only 10 teams & 10 seasons (more like 6 seasons before the merger & Super Bowl started being played between the leagues), its titles aren't quite on that same level. Same can be said with the NFL though, with only 16 teams at the time but a longer history. 

 

Even worse, counting AFL championships on the same level would give the Chiefs 1 extra championship, unless you want to give them 2, since they won the AFL championship in 1969 before going on to win the "AFL-NFL World Championship" (Super Bowl IV) that same year. I won't stand for that! 😉

 

****AFC/NFC Championship Game Rant Below****

 

All that being said, I think the NFL does a pretty good job recognizing pre-SB era history, AFL included. The only other thing I'd like to see is conference championship games elevated to higher status somehow. I know most people will disagree with me, but hosting them at a neutral site (as was planned last season if the Bills advanced in the AFC), and include all the pagentry/celebratory stuff that would honor such a great achievement. I want conferences to matter more, almost like the AFL vs NFL days. Instead of them just being a footnote for the eventual Super Bowl winner, make it something worth recognizing (like baseball has done). 

[Chandler#81]

NFLR does weekly shows on the Pro Football Hall of Fame and have added another series based on this. There’s plenty of material around, including our own Ken Crippen.

[Matt_In_NH]

Winning the AFL was a lbetter than  winning a division but less than a conference championship today.  There were 10 teams. 

[Southern_Bills]

If they recognized NFL championships pre 67 and not AFL championships maybe I would feel slighted.

 

But they basically said nothing older than 1967 is getting credit. The Bills have had 56 years to get a SB trophy and yet we wait. I won't put that on anyone but the franchise itself. 

[PBF81]

On 11/9/2023 at 10:30 AM, nucci said:

Not sure how an AFL championship can help alleviate 4 Superbowl losses in a row

 

Especially when hardly anyone younger than 70 would even have had any cognizance of that era, much less specifically our AFL championships.  

 

 

On 11/9/2023 at 11:31 AM, BillsVet said:

I want the 1925 Pottsville Maroons to get credit for the NFL Championship they won and rightfully deserve recognition for!

 

 

 

 

 

Ironically they beat Buffalo 28-0 that season.  

 

 

On 11/9/2023 at 11:43 AM, FrenchConnection said:

What about the 1921 Buffalo All-Americans, staring player-coach Tommy Hughitt. They was robbed too. This guy can play for my squad any day.

 

What's with that pose?  

 

Good caption pic.  

 

 

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 11/9/2023 at 10:26 AM, mjt328 said:

One of my frustrations with the NFL, is the refusal to recognize championships from before Super Bowl I occurred.

Professional football in the NFL goes back to 1920.  Not 1967.

Here are some facts that not everyone may know:

 

The Green Bay Packers have actually won more championships (13 overall) than both the New England Patriots and Pittsburgh Steelers combined.

The Chicago Bears have the second-most championships (9) out of anyone in the NFL.

 

Several teams who have never won a Super Bowl, have actually won multiple championships before that era began.  They include the Cleveland Browns (4), Detroit Lions (4), Buffalo Bills (2) and Tennessee Titans/Houston Oilers (2).  As a fan of the Bills, I know the frustration that exists over never hoisting the Lombardi Trophy and awful feeling like they will never get it done.  I often wonder if some of that could be alleviated if the NFL would just acknowledge more than 56 years of league history.

 

The Bills last championship was in 1965.  They have two overall.

The New York Jets last championship was in 1969.  They have one overall.

The Miami Dolphins last championship was in 1974.  They have two overall.

 

I like this, if they can’t win a superbowl, let’s revise history to make them retroactive winners.