Travis Kelce on Josh Allen taunting penalty: "So F---- whack"

[Bills!Win!]

2 hours ago, beebe said:

Says it was one of the weakest taunting calls he's ever seen. 

 

Linked to clip: 1:33:34 mark. 

 

 

What are you doing listening to the podcast of the enemy?

[Einstein's Dog]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

This.  To the letter of the rule it was a penalty.  Just like that throw they called intentional grounding when really the receiver just cut off his route.  There are far worse things like the facemask not called or the sliding tripping tackle not called.  Or in another game the guy taking his helmet off and hitting someone with it not called.  This taunting rule is just stupid.  Even stupider Josh could have gotten ejected for another similar act.  The NFL rules just don't make sense.  Much like some of their fines don't make sense.

What letter of the rule are you talking about?   There is a subjective element to determining intent.  You can finger point and not be called, the OL does it all the time presnap,  Players do it after first downs.  So no, it's not the letter, but what Josh did has been called because intent is assumed

 

You know when intent is also assumed is when the ball carrier is taken down by someone's legs.  It's generally assumed if the defender takes down the ball carrier with his legs there was intentional tripping.  Huge non-call.  It's 15 yards and a 1st down, the Bills ,safely in FG range, with time on the  clock.

[SoCal Deek]

I cannot possibly imagine that a defensive player gives a rats arse if Josh points at him while running into the end zone. Just another thing that Roger Goodell has gotten ALL WRONG in his version of the modern NFL. 

[4th&long]

I’m sure it’s taunting. But what I want to know is why is tyrek hill not called for the peace sign when he flashes it at players as he runs by them into the end zone? The nfl is losing credibility!

[Scott7975]

49 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

What letter of the rule are you talking about?   There is a subjective element to determining intent.  You can finger point and not be called, the OL does it all the time presnap,  Players do it after first downs.  So no, it's not the letter, but what Josh did has been called because intent is assumed

 

You know when intent is also assumed is when the ball carrier is taken down by someone's legs.  It's generally assumed if the defender takes down the ball carrier with his legs there was intentional tripping.  Huge non-call.  It's 15 yards and a 1st down, the Bills ,safely in FG range, with time on the  clock.

 

They call stuff when they feel like it. The rule is that if you do something in the face of the opponent then its taunting.  Such as look and point at the defender or spiking the ball in the defenders face or pointing first down to the defenders face.  Thats why you usually see someone get a first down and then move away from the defenders before they do their first down point or spike ball or whatever. You are right that it isnt always called and they call it when they feel like it just like all other penalties.  The penalty is also stupid af but it is the rule.

2 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

I’m sure it’s taunting. But what I want to know is why is tyrek hill not called for the peace sign when he flashes it at players as he runs by them into the end zone? The nfl is losing credibility!

 

He has been called for it before.  They just pick and choose when they feel like calling it.  Now he has gloves that are painted red two finger peace sign so he just puts his whole hand up as a mockery.

[Zag20]

3 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

same, ive been watching their podcast for a while now and they seem like good dudes

 

used to despise T Kelce and now i kind of like him

Agreed, this is is nice take from Kelce.  In acknowledgement I’m gonna go listen to some T Swift with my 11 year old 

[Success]

Kelce is growing on me  His commercials are funny too, and he was great on SNL.

 

Seems like a cool dude.

 

[Nelius]

3 hours ago, Airseven said:

The point was cringy.

Big pot meet kettle energy right here.

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, Success said:

Kelce is growing on me  His commercials are funny too, and he was great on SNL.

 

Seems like a cool dude.

 

The Kelce brothers are just good dudes. It's annoying how good Travis is when he's playing your team, but that doesn't make him a bad guy.

1 minute ago, Nelius said:

Big pot meet kettle energy right here.

Big pot just won an election here in Ohio, and I'm all for it.

[LABILLBACKER]

4 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

So why does Tyreek never get called for his peace sign he constantly flashes?

Exactly....that's 100x more taunting than Josh's stupid little point.  This league is so messed up in so many ways.

[pennstate10]

3 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

This.  To the letter of the rule it was a penalty.  Just like that throw they called intentional grounding when really the receiver just cut off his route.  There are far worse things like the facemask not called or the sliding tripping tackle not called.  Or in another game the guy taking his helmet off and hitting someone with it not called.  This taunting rule is just stupid.  Even stupider Josh could have gotten ejected for another similar act.  The NFL rules just don't make sense.  Much like some of their fines don't make sense.

Actually, despite what the idiot rules expert on TV said, that was not intentional grounding.

 

Here is the rule.

 

RULE SUMMARY VIEW OFFICIAL RULE

INTENTIONAL GROUNDING

It is a foul for intentional grounding if a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage because of pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion. A realistic chance of completion is defined as a pass that is thrown in the direction of and lands in the vicinity of an originally eligible receiver.

 

I highlighted the important part.

Allen was not about to be sacked.  It was a clear miscommunication.

 

NFL officials are bad and getting worse.

 

Why the NFL, a $10 billion/year industry depends on part time, old, bad officials accountable to no one is beyond me.

[GoBills808]

4 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

Actually, despite what the idiot rules expert on TV said, that was not intentional grounding.

 

Here is the rule.

 

RULE SUMMARY VIEW OFFICIAL RULE

INTENTIONAL GROUNDING

It is a foul for intentional grounding if a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage because of pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion. A realistic chance of completion is defined as a pass that is thrown in the direction of and lands in the vicinity of an originally eligible receiver.

 

I highlighted the important part.

Allen was not about to be sacked.  It was a clear miscommunication.

 

NFL officials are bad and getting worse.

 

Why the NFL, a $10 billion/year industry depends on part time, old, bad officials accountable to no one is beyond me.

My favorite part was when the rules analyst said 'intent's got nothing to do with it!' right after the screen flashed the words INTENTIONAL GROUNDING

 

 

[Scott7975]

18 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

Actually, despite what the idiot rules expert on TV said, that was not intentional grounding.

 

Here is the rule.

 

RULE SUMMARY VIEW OFFICIAL RULE

INTENTIONAL GROUNDING

It is a foul for intentional grounding if a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage because of pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion. A realistic chance of completion is defined as a pass that is thrown in the direction of and lands in the vicinity of an originally eligible receiver.

 

I highlighted the important part.

Allen was not about to be sacked.  It was a clear miscommunication.

 

NFL officials are bad and getting worse.

 

Why the NFL, a $10 billion/year industry depends on part time, old, bad officials accountable to no one is beyond me.

 

Yeah I know it wasnt intentional grounding.  I lumped them together my bad.

[US Egg]

4 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

in case anyone was wondering what im talking about re:hubbard hit and why Allen likely reacted like that

 

this is him going for Allen's knees about 4seconds after he released the pass to Diggs

 

Best/worst part of this is the ref looking at it all the way. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 hours ago, Special K said:

Not as bad a penalty as the intentional grounding penalty....that one cost the Bills a chance at 3 points.

 

i was just thinking that, absolutely horrendous call along with the Settle pulling the QB on himself penalty.

 

 

[Not at the table Karlos]

4 hours ago, JPL7 said:

How come Tyreek Hill doesn’t get called for his peace sign thing????

He does at times. He also gets fined. 

Edited November 9, 2023 by Not at the table Karlos

[Dr.Sack]

Taylor Swift wants Josh. 

[Lane Meyer K12]

All of the stupid ass endzone celebrations they allow, and they are stupid, and the refs flag JA for that. 

[NoSaint]

4 minutes ago, Lane Meyer K12 said:

All of the stupid ass endzone celebrations they allow, and they are stupid, and the refs flag JA for that. 

it’s the gap between celebrating with your teammates vs towards an opponent. It’s been a point of emphasis for a few years. 
 

I think back in 2021(?) it was a pretty heavy topic with a ton of flags for guys spinning the ball towards opponents, flexing while facing the opponents sideline and the tyreek situation. 
 

The simplest is go be happy for your accomplishments without addressing the guys on the other side. 

 

that Said, they created a monster with those 20 player 80 yard dashes to the camera 

[Dopey]

If Travis Swift says so, it must be true.