Gregg Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: wfan absolutely trashed the Bills today. Evan and Tiki show. I gotta find the clip but they trashed Allen , Evan said they should trade him lmao.. Otherwise it has been glorious listening, they all guaranteed a Jest victory. P.S- can't stand the kay show, him ,Don and Rosenturd are brutal but props to him for asking that question Facts. Absolutely must wins. And Idk the last time I said that And a Philly L wouldn't kill us. Still feel we'd win though. Go into the bye 7-5 or 8-4 Evan is a diehard Jets fan so it's no surprise he hates the Bills. Quote
JerseyBills Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, Gregg said: Evan is a diehard Jets fan so it's no surprise he hates the Bills. Oh i know, so is BT on before them. It's funny they never mention Allen as a top QB but their partners will. I always end my calls with Thank God your Jets took Sam Darnold over Joshua Patrick Allen, Take care 1 Quote
Rigotz Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 20 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Guessing ownership. Probably told him he had to make it work with Wilson. Once they are satisfied it’s not going to happen, then they can move on. Woody Johnson has always been clueless and unethical as an NFL owner. I was surprised when Saleh took that job. It is one of the few HC jobs in the NFL that up and coming coaches should be wary of accepting due to ownership. Bingo. For those saying it's because Saleh has a love affair with Wilson or because Wilson has some kind of special connection with Rodgers ... lol come on. The Jets spent the 2nd overall pick in the draft on Wilson. He's in his 3rd year in the league. They're giving him a final shot. After starting Mike White over him last year, if they started Trevor Semien over him this year it would tank any remaining value he has and destroy his confidence even worse. They're playing the long game. Ownership isn't thinking 2023 season ... they want to see if they actually have something in Zach or not in a doomsday Rodgers injury scenario. 3 Quote
Gregg Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Bingo. For those saying it's because Saleh has a love affair with Wilson or because Wilson has some kind of special connection with Rodgers ... lol come on. The Jets spent the 2nd overall pick in the draft on Wilson. He's in his 3rd year in the league. They're giving him a final shot. After starting Mike White over him last year, if they started Trevor Semien over him this year it would tank any remaining value he has and destroy his confidence even worse. They're playing the long game. Ownership isn't thinking 2023 season ... they want to see if they actually have something in Zach or not in a doomsday Rodgers injury scenario. It's got to be killing Jets fans watching CJ Stroud show that he will be the guy in Houston and doing it in his rookie year. Edited November 9, 2023 by Gregg Quote
bigK14094 Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 On 11/8/2023 at 1:03 PM, Gregg said: A 40-year-old coming back from a torn Achillies in less than 4 months. I can't see it happening. If he does by some miracle come back, there is an excellent chance he will hurt it again. They lose to the Raiders this Sunday night to go 4-5 and then lose at Buffalo to go 4-6 what would be the point of him coming back in a losing year. With the NYC meida involved, logic does not prevail most of the time. 1 1 Quote
mannc Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Gregg said: It's got to be killing Jets fans watching CJ Stroud show that he will be the guy in Houston and doing it in his rookie year. Not to mention Panthers fans, assuming there are any left... 2 Quote
Mango Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Zach Wilson stinks, so lets start there. But Saleh has been/encouraged kicking Wilson in the nuts all the time. I do think Wilson has shown enough that I wouldn't be furious if he joined the Bills as a back up and tried to get right. He has shown some ability. Quote
Gregg Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mango said: Zach Wilson stinks, so lets start there. But Saleh has been/encouraged kicking Wilson in the nuts all the time. I do think Wilson has shown enough that I wouldn't be furious if he joined the Bills as a back up and tried to get right. He has shown some ability. 1 1 Quote
Saxum Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Gregg said: I'll remember to use that meme next time you suggest Beli-CHEAT working for the Bills. 2 Quote
Gregg Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: I'll remember to use that meme next time you suggest Beli-CHEAT working for the Bills. Difference between Bill and Zach is one will go to the HOF as the GOAT HC and the other will continue to amount to nothing as a QB in this league. Quote
Saxum Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, Gregg said: Difference between Bill and Zach is one will go to the HOF as the GOAT HC and the other will continue to amount to nothing as a QB in this league. If NFL had ethics of baseball he would have been banned a long time ago. I know there are fans of Pete Rose who still want him in Hall of Fame. Quote
Gregg Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, Limeaid said: If NFL had ethics of baseball he would have been banned a long time ago. I know there are fans of Pete Rose who still want him in Hall of Fame. I agree that Rose shouldn't have held a position in baseball after what he did (manager ,GM ,broadcaster) but he should have been inducted into the HOF for what he did as a player. OJ is in the HOF and what he did was the worst thing you could do. Quote
SoTier Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 23 hours ago, Rigotz said: Bingo. For those saying it's because Saleh has a love affair with Wilson or because Wilson has some kind of special connection with Rodgers ... lol come on. The Jets spent the 2nd overall pick in the draft on Wilson. He's in his 3rd year in the league. They're giving him a final shot. After starting Mike White over him last year, if they started Trevor Semien over him this year it would tank any remaining value he has and destroy his confidence even worse. They're playing the long game. Ownership isn't thinking 2023 season ... they want to see if they actually have something in Zach or not in a doomsday Rodgers injury scenario. IMO it's pretty clear that the Jests don't have much of anything in Wilson. If he wasn't a #2 overall pick, he'd be a third stringer ... or hanging out on a practice squad. The more he plays, the clearer it becomes that he lacks the intangible traits a successful NFL QB needs. 16 hours ago, Gregg said: I agree that Rose shouldn't have held a position in baseball after what he did (manager ,GM ,broadcaster) but he should have been inducted into the HOF for what he did as a player. OJ is in the HOF and what he did was the worst thing you could do. I think the reason that OJ is in the HOF is that he was inducted long before he murdered 2 people. Rose wasn't yet in the HOF when he was charged with cheating. 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 16 hours ago, Gregg said: I agree that Rose shouldn't have held a position in baseball after what he did (manager ,GM ,broadcaster) but he should have been inducted into the HOF for what he did as a player. OJ is in the HOF and what he did was the worst thing you could do. What OJ did has nothing to do with the game of football, Pete on the other hand may have. I don't mind Pete going into the HOF as a player but the problem is the voters don't just see Pete as a player but they also classify him as a manager and his gambling as a manager is the issue, now he might have gambled as a player too and if so then he rightfully should not be in the HOF. Quote
Gregg Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SoTier said: IMO it's pretty clear that the Jests don't have much of anything in Wilson. If he wasn't a #2 overall pick, he'd be a third stringer ... or hanging out on a practice squad. The more he plays, the clearer it becomes that he lacks the intangible traits a successful NFL QB needs. I think the reason that OJ is in the HOF is that he was inducted long before he murdered 2 people. Rose wasn't yet in the HOF when he was charged with cheating. They could have removed OJ from the HOF if they wanted to, I would guess. Look at what Penn St did with Paterno. When that scandal came out with one his coaches sexually abusing students and he supposedly knew about it. Penn St removed him from their history books in a NY minute. Paterno was a legend for the longest time there. Edited November 10, 2023 by Gregg Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 5 hours ago, SoTier said: IMO it's pretty clear that the Jests don't have much of anything in Wilson. If he wasn't a #2 overall pick, he'd be a third stringer ... or hanging out on a practice squad. The more he plays, the clearer it becomes that he lacks the intangible traits a successful NFL QB needs. I think the reason that OJ is in the HOF is that he was inducted long before he murdered 2 people. Rose wasn't yet in the HOF when he was charged with cheating. I'd like to see what the result and repercussion would have been had he been convicted of the double murder. I would hope the decision would have been different and he would have been removed, but we will never know. The court of public opinion convicted him. The court of common sense confirms it. We all know he's guilty. However the final statline on it reads "not guilty" and as much of a dark cloud as it is, it would open the door for a lot more people being removed over being simply accused of serious crimes...guilty or not. Slippery slope. 1 Quote
bigK14094 Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 On 11/9/2023 at 2:55 PM, Mango said: Zach Wilson stinks, so lets start there. But Saleh has been/encouraged kicking Wilson in the nuts all the time. I do think Wilson has shown enough that I wouldn't be furious if he joined the Bills as a back up and tried to get right. He has shown some ability. Justin Fields will be available cheap also. At least his style is somewhat like Josh in the ability to run. Fields lacks the arm however, and Wilson seems to lack the head. 1 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 On 11/9/2023 at 2:55 PM, Mango said: Zach Wilson stinks, so lets start there. But Saleh has been/encouraged kicking Wilson in the nuts all the time. I do think Wilson has shown enough that I wouldn't be furious if he joined the Bills as a back up and tried to get right. He has shown some ability. Zach Wilson would make Bills fans pine for the days of Kyle Allen 2 Quote
BRH Posted November 10, 2023 Posted November 10, 2023 On 11/8/2023 at 2:59 PM, Buffalo716 said: And.. it's not like the Russian Olympic committee is the bastion of sportsmanship... Russia is banned from the Olympics for cheating so they had to create an roc team... Me think they also pumped this guy full of every single Russian steroid, walrus sperm, pterodactyl wings and whatever black magic they use Not unlike what a lot of NFL teams do.... Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted November 11, 2023 Posted November 11, 2023 2 hours ago, bigK14094 said: Justin Fields will be available cheap also. At least his style is somewhat like Josh in the ability to run. Fields lacks the arm however, and Wilson seems to lack the head. Fields sucks. Tyson Bagent has 2 wins in 4 starts Fields is 6-25 as a starter for a whopping win percentage of .19. Yeah the Bears are bad but he was drafted to a playoff team the year before he got there. Decent talent on that roster and the QB added nothing Quote
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