National media are starting to grind their collective axes

[mannc]

4 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

 

From watching the video it feels like they are afraid to go all in like the Rams did. The season after the 13 second game was the year to go all in. Trade a bunch of picks for elite playmakers. Trade for Henry, sign Hopkins and try to win now. As the video says it feels like they are happy with getting to the division round each season. 

 

You look at teams like the Eagles this season, they see they have a good chance to win this season so they made moves to better their chances. 

The Eagles are an interesting comparison.  I don't think the Eagles ever "went all-in."  I would argue that they've gone down the same path as the Bills, except they've executed better.  The AJ Brown trade was exactly like the Stefon Diggs trade, first round pick for a veteran WR looking for a new contract; it's worked out well for both teams.  The difference is that (1) the Eagles have had a few more high draft picks to use, thanks to the Colts foolishly taking Carson Wentz off their hands; (2) being able to land Hurts with a late second round pick (think he's still on his rookie deal); (3) developing a great offensive line, which has been done without the help of high draft picks, other than Lane Johnson, who's been around forever;  and (4) better coaching, and not being afraid to move on from a previously successful coach who wasn't cutting it.       

Edited November 8, 2023 by mannc

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said:

He may have figured White and Von Miller would be shells of their former selfs.  I don’t know how anyone could have seen the Bills O playing subpar for the Bills O the last 5 games. 

Simms is pretty dialed in. He talks to players and may have even seen some TC. He may not have liked what he heard or saw. One thing I would bet heavily against is that he made that prediction on a whim. He had his reasons even if he isn’t sharing them now. 

Edited November 8, 2023 by BarleyNY

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I have a question. There seemed to be an increase in national media down on the Buffalo Bills prior to the season starting. Why? I can’t remember the reasons but there was a lot of talk. Was it just the Jets and Dolphins being good? Was it the drama with Diggs?

 

 

 

[BillsPride12]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I have a question. There seemed to be an increase in national media down on the Buffalo Bills prior to the season starting. Why? I can’t remember the reasons but there was a lot of talk. Was it just the Jets and Dolphins being good? Was it the drama with Diggs?

 

 

 

I know there were injuries and stuff but I think a lot of it was the way we looked barely squeaking by Miami in the wildcard round and then getting dominated by Cincy in the Divisional round.  Teams are usually judged off of how they finish off a season 

[Mr. WEO]

what's the point?

[Jrb1979]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

what's the point?

Watch the video and you will see the point. 

[Mr. WEO]

3 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

Watch the video and you will see the point. 

 

what's the point of watching the video?  to rail at "the national media"?

 

who cares?

[Jrb1979]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

what's the point of watching the video?  to rail at "the national media"?

 

who cares?

They make some really good points on the issues the Bills have on offense. 

[dpberr]

There needs to be a 30/30 on how some of these dudes - Colin Cowherd, Mike Florio, Stephen A. Smith - came to be the Spirit Halloween stores of NFL commentary.  

 

I need to understand the decision making process to give Florio and Chris Simms a show.  I need to see the person advocating the "pros" side of that list in the conference room.  

[Sestak4ever]

8 hours ago, Thunderstruck said:

 

The same post-game clichés aren't going to cut it anymore. There haven't been any answers coming from this coaching staff, and the people who know football are taking notice and calling this absurdity out. The definition of "insanity", many have said, is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results.

 

We love this team. We deserve better. What I would really love to know is whether this is a case of McDermott blindly continuing to support "his guy" or if McDermott, himself, is the one who is dictating the style of offense in an attempt to prop up his faltering (yes- also injury ravaged) defense.

Remember McDermott was fired by Andy Reid in Philly, and from I have read the Philadelphia media and fans were happy to see him go. Their biggest complaint was that he failed to make in game adjustments and was too stubborn.

[Mr. WEO]

10 minutes ago, dpberr said:

There needs to be a 30/30 on how some of these dudes - Colin Cowherd, Mike Florio, Stephen A. Smith - came to be the Spirit Halloween stores of NFL commentary.  

 

I need to understand the decision making process to give Florio and Chris Simms a show.  I need to see the person advocating the "pros" side of that list in the conference room.  

 

Simple:  "will people tune in?'

[BuffaloRebound]

Most of the time these talking heads just pick a side to generate back and forth to get clicks.  But they do have perspective on the whole league, and most teams that haven’t gotten to a Super Bowl fail trying to run it back with the same core of aging players.  Edmunds is the only core guy they’ve moved on from and the Bears contract made it a no brainer to move on.  We’re an aging team that hasn’t made it to the Super Bowl, so this years results aren’t that surprising.  

[Simon]

Could somebody tell me who those two guys are so I can decide whether to drop them into the Random Talking Heads thread?

[Fan in Chicago]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

Could somebody tell me who those two guys are so I can decide whether to drop them into the Random Talking Heads thread?

Didn't you just answer your own question?😀

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Didn't you just answer your own question?😀

Sort of. 

If it's a Cowherd/Rome/Wright sort of thing I'll move them, but I wanted to be fair in case it's somebody respected with a good reputation (i.e. Dan Orlovsky).

[chongli]

I can't wait for Monday come so everyone around here can be happy after our win. This forum is hard to bear after a loss.

 

[P.S. We still control our own destiny for the division title.]

[DisplacedBillsFan]

11 hours ago, mannc said:

Everyone here likes to dump on the national media, with some justification.  But, while national media types of course don’t follow the Bills as closely as we do, guys like Simms know a lot about football and have connections around the league who know even more, and Simms isn’t the only one who’s been saying it.  There has been a consensus developing for the last couple years that the Bills outside of Josh Allen just aren’t a very talented team.  People who have said that stuff here have been shouted down, but we’re starting to see that the national media weren’t wrong. It’s not one thing of course…it’s a roster with really only 2 elite players, combined with uninspired coaching, especially on offense, that has put us in a tough spot. It’s not magically going to come together over these next 8 games…big changes are needed.

So you’re saying McD is such a good coach he can have results like we’ve had the last few years with only two elite players? Dang. Imagine what he could do with a talented team. 5 SBs in a row seems plausible.

Edited November 8, 2023 by DisplacedBillsFan

[Einstein]

11 hours ago, mannc said:

 while national media types of course don’t follow the Bills as closely as we do, guys like Simms know a lot about football and have connections around the league who know even more, and Simms isn’t the only one who’s been saying it.  

 

Agreed. Of all the national media, Simms and Florio are the best, in my opinion. They’re not the ESPN-type-blowhards. 

 

Love Florio’s comments pointing out that the Bills never push their chips in and go for it. They simply re-tool moderately every year and never go after elite guys to push us over the top. 

 

I get why they don’t. But I would be lying if I said I wouldn’t love them doing that.

[MikePJ76]

The nfl used to have some great writers who covered the game.  The pregame shows were good and the newspapers across the country did an excellent job covering the league.

 

Now we have mike florio, one of the dumbest people i have ever heard talk about the nfl and stephen a smith and many more just like them or worse with  the twitter all 22 people. 

 

its depressing trying to find professionals who cover the games on monday mornings.  

[Jrb1979]

1 hour ago, chongli said:

I can't wait for Monday come so everyone around here can be happy after our win. This forum is hard to bear after a loss.

 

[P.S. We still control our own destiny for the division title.]

What do you expect. Outside of 3 games the offense has not been good and the defense has a lot of injuries