Bills vs Broncos-Monday Night Football

[JDubya76]

3 hours ago, ngbills said:

We will hear how much DEN is better than the team that gave up 70 points. We will play to their level and either win close or possibly lose. Then DEN will go to MIN and lose by 50+ the next week. 

Josh Dobbs isn’t hanging 50 on anyone.

[Low Positive]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

 

Always in the back of my mind,….

on Thanksgiving weekend 2020, the Bucs lost to KC at home to fall to 7-5.  Then Tampa had a bye in week 13 (same as Buffalo this year).  They came out of the bye and won 8 in a row to win the Super Bowl.  Easy peasey right?!?

We just need to get that Tom Brady guy. I wonder what he’s doing these days? 

[Dablitzkrieg]

If you want a coaching change,  root for a loss 🙃

[Breakout Squad]

17 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

If you want a coaching change,  root for a loss 🙃

Ughhhh I couldn’t do it. We still have a chance. As bad as we look it’s always refreshing to see the Jets get destroyed at home. 
 

Chiefs are the class of the AFC and look SB bound. The AFC East is still up for grabs. It’s a strange year. It seems like most teams are capable of winning. 

[CincyBillsFan]

57 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

If you want a coaching change,  root for a loss 🙃

Can't do it.  The Bengals & Chiefs walked away from coaches who were regularly getting their teams to the playoffs because ownership recognized that the current coaches could not get the team over the hump.  I'm hoping that Pegula sees the situation in the same way that the Brown's & Hunt's did.

 

 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Any day the Josh Allen led Buffalo Bills play a football game, I like their chances.

 

That being said, this game is one that I feel like either breaks our season, or gives you nothing in return (aside from the W). 
 

If we win, regardless of how it looks, we’ll still have our doubts and apprehensions. 
 

I haven’t looked too much into the Broncos statistics this year, but from what I’ve heard in passing, I’m going to focus much more on their last 3 games than the entire season. 

[Casey D]

54 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said:

Ughhhh I couldn’t do it. We still have a chance. As bad as we look it’s always refreshing to see the Jets get destroyed at home. 
 

Chiefs are the class of the AFC and look SB bound. The AFC East is still up for grabs. It’s a strange year. It seems like most teams are capable of winning. 

The team that got hammered by Denver is the clear class? Don't seem at all clear to me.

[Returntoglory]

If we lose this game...

[Casey D]

18 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Can't do it.  The Bengals & Chiefs walked away from coaches who were regularly getting their teams to the playoffs because ownership recognized that the current coaches could not get the team over the hump.  I'm hoping that Pegula sees the situation in the same way that the Brown's & Hunt's did.

 

 

Who are you talking about-- Romeo Crennel or are you talking about Schottenheimer? 

[CincyBillsFan]

8 minutes ago, Casey D said:

Who are you talking about-- Romeo Crennel or are you talking about Schottenheimer? 

Shottenhiemer. He was very successful at winning games and getting the Chiefs to the playoffs but I think he was 3 - 7 in playoff games.  I know he officially "resigned" but he was forced out by ownership.  Now it didn't work out for the Chiefs as the next coach couldn't even get them to the playoffs whch is the risk if the Bills were to part ways with McD.  But they made the bold move based on their realization that Marty was not going to get them to a SB.

 

The better and more timely example IMO is Marvin Lewis in Cincinnati.  Lewis worked a major miracle in turning around a horrid Bengal's franchise.  That team was bad, very bad. A lot like the Bills team that McD took over. And like McD Lewis fixed the problems and transformed a loser into a winner and multi year playoff team.  But Lewis never won a playoff game (0 - 7 I think) and as a defensive minded coach he was ultimately the wrong guy to get the Bengals over the hump.  So Mike Brown went with a young offensive minded guy in Zack Taylor.

 

Two examples one with a sad ending and one with a happy ending.  But two examples of ownership walking away from head aches who enjoyed a lot of success.

 

 

[Casey D]

12 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Shottenhiemer. He was very successful at winning games and getting the Chiefs to the playoffs but I think he was 3 - 7 in playoff games.  I know he officially "resigned" but he was forced out by ownership.  Now it didn't work out for the Chiefs as the next coach couldn't even get them to the playoffs whch is the risk if the Bills were to part ways with McD.  But they made the bold move based on their realization that Marty was not going to get them to a SB.

 

The better and more timely example IMO is Marvin Lewis in Cincinnati.  Lewis worked a major miracle in turning around a horrid Bengal's franchise.  That team was bad, very bad. A lot like the Bills team that McD took over. And like McD Lewis fixed the problems and transformed a loser into a winner and multi year playoff team.  But Lewis never won a playoff game (0 - 7 I think) and as a defensive minded coach he was ultimately the wrong guy to get the Bengals over the hump.  So Mike Brown went with a young offensive minded guy in Zack Taylor.

 

Two examples one with a sad ending and one with a happy ending.  But two examples of ownership walking away from head aches who enjoyed a lot of success.

 

 

Well the Chiefs were in the wilderness for 15 years, and Lewis had a much worse record than McDermott.  You better have a sure-fire candidate in mind before you fire a guy with McDermott's record.  Chances are you will most likely go backwards.

[CincyBillsFan]

Just now, Casey D said:

Well the Chiefs were in the wilderness for 15 years, and Lewis had a much worse record than McDermott.  You better have a sure-fire candidate in mind before you fire a guy with McDermott's record.  Chances are you will most likely go backwards.

McD has Allen which IMO has been the difference versus Lewis.  I agree that firing McD is risky.  But I believe that with an offensive minded coach and Allen this team will go the way of the Bengals who got the coach right first then got the QB right.  We have the QB what is in doubt is whether or not we have the coach and more importantly coaching/management philosophy to fully exploit the special QB we have. 

 

 

[Casey D]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

McD has Allen which IMO has been the difference versus Lewis.  I agree that firing McD is risky.  But I believe that with an offensive minded coach and Allen this team will go the way of the Bengals who got the coach right first then got the QB right.  We have the QB what is in doubt is whether or not we have the coach and more importantly coaching/management philosophy to fully exploit the special QB we have. 

 

 

Like Josh McDaniels?  Finding "that" coach is almost as hard as finding the right QB

Edited November 8, 2023 by Casey D

[poo]

bills are favored by 7.5 points over Denver. still getting respect but for how much longer with these losses? 

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Casey D said:

Like Josh McDaniels?  Finding "that" coach is almost as hard as finding the right QB

I would take the chance pending the outcome of this season.  If McD stabilizes the Bills situation and they go on a run and win the AFC East and then win a playoff game or two McD will have proven us naysayers at least partially wrong. Get to the AFC Championship game or a SB and he will have definitively proven us wrong and I would be very happy to admit I was wrong. 

 

The thing I don't want to live through is a slow decline like they had in Cincy under Lewis.  That's worse then an implosion.

 

 

[Casey D]

4 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I would take the chance pending the outcome of this season.  If McD stabilizes the Bills situation and they go on a run and win the AFC East and then win a playoff game or two McD will have proven us naysayers at least partially wrong. Get to the AFC Championship game or a SB and he will have definitively proven us wrong and I would be very happy to admit I was wrong. 

 

The thing I don't want to live through is a slow decline like they had in Cincy under Lewis.  That's worse then an implosion.

 

 

Fair enough.  But we have no say and McD is not going anywhere after one down year after taking a laughing-stock franchise and turning it into a primetime team.  So I am not going to contemplate something that won't happen until 2025 at the earliest.

[CincyBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, Casey D said:

Fair enough.  But we have no say and McD is not going anywhere after one down year after taking a laughing-stock franchise and turning it into a primetime team.  So I am not going to contemplate something that won't happen until 2025 at the earliest.

You are probably right and that's a shame.  The current NFL is a league where owners have to make snap decisions.  Maintaining the status quo will not get this team over the hump.  The ONLY way it might work is if Bean takes control and tells McD that the lions share of resources are going to the offense for the next 3 seasons and that we're bringing in an experienced OC who specializes in dual threat QB's.

 

I watched what happened to Carson Palmer down here in Cincinnati.  When Palmer became convinced the Bengal's were not building a team that could win a SB because of their criminal neglect of the O line (sound familiar) he forced his way off the team by "retiring".  I could see this happening with Allen a couple of years down the road if they stick with McD who tries to turn Allen into Brock Purdy while spending 3rd round draft picks and signing other teams backups for the O line.

 

 

[frostbitmic]

This being the 3rd straight week of the Bills being a prime time game, and against the Broncos at that, should be a ratings bonanza 🤣. Even I'm getting tired of watching these not ready for prime time players at night.

[Nitro]

Must win game. The margin of error is small.  Messed sound the first half of the season trying to find the offense. 

[Since1981]

Must win because a loss to Broncos and heat becomes unbearable.

$8M/yr HC