I’m scared to fire McDermott.

[reddogblitz]

Sorry I can't take anyone seriously that can't just give Coach  McDermott credit for ending the 17 year looooooong drought.  All the yeah buts are so tiresome and silly. Sure the team is not doing so hot right now and Coach McDermott as Head Coach deserves a lot of criticism.  

 

But just get off the he got lucky in 2017 thing. Do yall remember the drought? It was long and arduous and Coach McDermott got us out of it someway somehow. Give the man credit for that at least.

 

25 minutes ago, Chaos said:

First, I do think McDermott gets another head-coaching job . But I think it is less than certain it’s hard to imagine any team who thinks they have their franchise quarterback in place hiring Sean McDermott. I also think any team with the draft capital to to land a franchise QB would not hire McDermott

 

It seems like the teams that would be interested would be the teams that are starting guys like Sam Howell or Derek Carr, who don’t really have realistic championship aspirations

 

 

If Coach McDermott were to be fired there would be teams lining up outside his door to hire him.

Edited November 7, 2023 by reddogblitz

[gonzo1105]

The QB makes the coach, i'd be more afraid firing him if we had a bad QB and he was getting us to the playoffs but we have a superstar QB with flaws, and we are severely underachieving. The players aren't believing in something whether its the offense or the message that is being sent by coaches. 

[Yobogoya!]

9 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

It's a decent sounding plan. But I dont think that is the current recipe for success in the modern NFL.

 

It's more along the lines of finding a young, unknown staff member from a top Offense and catching lightning in a bottle.

 

I don't think it's the ideal plan for sure. But under the assumption McD's record and success is going to make it hard for Terry to fire him, I think it's the next best thing. 

[Gunsgoodtime]

15 minutes ago, Bulldog said:

At least we won't have to listen to people complaining that Jauron is "clapping" too much! 

Jaron clapped some as well, its the only way we were sure he was alive sometimes

[starrymessenger]

Like the man (Herm Edwards) said "you play to win the game". IMO if we stick with McD it'll be more "it's hard to win in the NFL". You are not going all out to win if you doubt your HC has what it takes to get you there and you leave him in the saddle. No guarantee that a change would work but if you don't even try you are not to be taken seriously in an ultra competitive environment.
I'm obviously not an expert but Dorsey looks to me to be inexperienced (not necessarily bad). Don't think he's ready now and there is no knowing whether he will ever be ready. And promoting him from within (especially of a guy already fired once as QB coach in Carolina) leaves me with the uneasy feeling that McD looks for a very junior partner because he fears any challenge to his conservative, defensive philosophy and approach. Possibly a lack of self-confidence or at least an indication of a lack of flexibility. I'm not sure how comfortable he would be if a bright young OC was hired to take over from Dorsey and suddenly unlocked a tremendous improvement in the O, showing McD up. He might even feel threatened. 
So really it might make the most sense to get rid of both McD and Dorsey. I don't believe things will get better unless and until we do but to me McD is the biggest problem. Speaking for myself I believe that Beane is a good GM but he's had to give McD the kind of team McD wants. I think the emphasis on D, or rather the neglect of the O, stems from McD. 
Interesting that both McD and Jauron are conservative, defensive coaches who were defensive backs in their playing days and are good at coaching up DBs.

[extrahammer]

The thing about McDermott is it sort of becomes like the chicken or the egg analogy, McD does deserve credit for being head coach when we broke the playoff drought and four consecutive playoff appearances, and three AFC East championships. But in tough games, he often makes questionable game management decisions, and he's constantly competing with the Andy Reid's of the NFL now, so it shows up more in those tight games. There are some certain types of coaches in the NFL who just have that experience McD doesn't have or can't make up so quickly. There are also many who don't have his record too. 

[DrDawkinstein]

44 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

If Coach McDermott were to be fired there would be teams lining up outside his door to hire him.

 

Absolutely. Bottom-5 teams who want to turn it around and would love a wild card spot would be all over him. We're not in that class anymore.

[McBean]

2 hours ago, BeastMaster said:

Best post I've seen here in quite awhile

 

We should've made the change last year, TBQH

 

Thank you

[EasternOHBillsFan]

4 hours ago, McBean said:

You guys want to sit back and take this crap? Be my guest. I’ve pounded the table for 3 years to get this bozo out of WNY. Now, some are finally thinking I’m not crazy. You’re seeing it in front of your eyes folks. We are wasting a Hall of Fame QB. We are wasting time. We are wasting our best chance ever to win a Super Bowl title. To get this dark cloud over with. To bring a trophy home to WNY. For Bills Mafia across the world. How can we better our chances? Simple…

Terry, please God do the right thing and FIRE SEAN MCDERMOTT.

 

I think that many of us feel the exact same way you do now... but it's not happening. 2024 or a bit sooner, Dorsey is fired. 2025, McDermott is fired is what I see... 

 

What other choice do we have BUT to take this crap?!?!!? We can't force Pegula to do what makes sense... we have to blow it up because of this... it will be wasted, all of it.

[damj]

Sounds like someone doesn't trust The Process

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Awful lot of these facts sound like opinions. 
 

Fire McDermott is easy. Replace him with who is the hard part. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

I am not opposed to anything, outside trading Josh Allen.

 

The OC point is a valid one, any young guy will get poached after a year or two (and most can return after they get fired). Bills could hire a veteran OC who’s a failed HC, likely wouldn’t gather much HC interest again.

 

In my opinion, this summer is a bad one to need a new HC. I’d rather see them keep McD one more season and get themselves a true, established OC to come in and take over. 
 

If they fail next year, fire everyone. Ben Johnson will likely be in year 2 as an OC, DaBoll will probably be available, and who knows who else. 

[Reed83HOF]

4 hours ago, McBean said:

Bingo

What you need is to get McD have an affair in the office, fastest way of having Terry get rid of people...

[LABILLBACKER]

 

The title should read " I'm eager to fire McDermott"....listen Sean was the perfect HC to rebuild a culture here in Buffalo.  But his well documented flaws can no longer be ignored.  The best player to ever come to this organization is thirsting for an offensive mentor (HC).  Sean and his designated OC have no clue what to do with Josh.  It's week 10 and he's talking about experimenting with different styles.  His in- game management is terrible.  His clock management is terrible.  He butt heads with Daboll because he wanted a more " balanced" (which is code for conservative) offense.  Well if you really wanted a balanced offense,  why did you & Beane waste so many picks on defensive players, instead of OL/ WR2 etc.

 

I think McDermott peaked or maybe a better word is plateaud after 13 seconds.  He has taken this group as far as he can.  He'll never out- coach the more polished guys. This organization has some big contracts to manage down the road. I think it's more than time to thank Sean for his service and move forward with someone like Ben Johnson. 

 

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

5 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

I am not opposed to anything, outside trading Josh Allen.

 

 

I'm not entirely certain I'm opposed to that even. Watched a lot of film reviews this year and the number of wide open guys he just doesn't see is somewhat disturbing.

 

If the haul was good enough, all options should be on the table. Cap hell is real on this team, and the only real way out of it short of a three-year run of absolute mediocrity like this year is a teardown.

 

[Mark92]

[BillsPride12]

4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

What you need is to get McD have an affair in the office, fastest way of having Terry get rid of people...

I wonder what Lauren Hall is up to these days

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

I'm not entirely certain I'm opposed to that even. Watched a lot of film reviews this year and the number of wide open guys he just doesn't see is somewhat disturbing.

 

If the haul was good enough, all options should be on the table. Cap hell is real on this team, and the only real way out of it short of a three-year run of absolute mediocrity like this year is a teardown.

 

If you’re willing to trade Josh Allen because of a less efficient, but still elite season then sell the team, move them from the area and be done with it. Seriously. 

[Reed83HOF]

1 minute ago, BillsPride12 said:

I wonder what Lauren Hall is up to these days

It could be Russ Brandon for all I care

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

If you’re willing to trade Josh Allen because of a less efficient, but still elite season then sell the team, move them from the area and be done with it. Seriously. 

I haven't lived in Buffalo since the 1980s

 

But thanks for the advice, Andy, I'll put it in the proper place.