Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 "To this point, Cleveland's defense under Schwartz could be the most improved unit in the NFL; the Browns ranked 19th in efficiency last year. This season, they've been dominant." https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38625012/how-jim-schwartz-transformed-cleveland-browns-nfl-defense https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-defense-rankings/ 4 1 1 Quote
Bagwell358 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 McDermott was never going to change his philosophy and give up the reigns to his defense to Schwartz 6 1 13 2 Quote
davefan66 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bagwell358 said: McDermott was never going to change his philosophy and give up the reigns to his defense to Schwartz Absolutely correct. This defense is McD’s and he is not going to change the concept/style. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bagwell358 said: McDermott was never going to change his philosophy and give up the reigns to his defense to Schwartz McDermotts ego is the problem period. At best he is marty schottenheimer and Marvin lewis rolled into one. 1 1 2 5 2 Quote
Taro Nimbus Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Who’s to say Schwartz would’ve even come back?? He wanted the HC position here but was passed over. 1 1 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Would’ve been great except for one major problem. Schwartz was already hired by the Browns before Bills season ended last year. 1 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Would’ve been great except for one major problem. Schwartz was already hired by the Browns before Bills season ended last year. Who cares about details when the pitchforks are out? 3 Quote
PonyBoy Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Who cares about details when the pitchforks are out? 22 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Who cares about details when the pitchforks are out? Get 'em all!!!! 2 Quote
mrags Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Bagwell358 said: McDermott was never going to change his philosophy and give up the reigns to his defense to Schwartz This. yes, of course he should have. Hell, Schwartz should never have been let go. 1 Quote
waterglass Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Over the past six years the league has passed by McDermott. Jets, Dolphins, Jags, Tennesee, San Francisco, Bengals, Cowboys, Eagles and several others have young coaches all of whom can out coach McDermott. He along with Beane seem to be drafting a 1980s style of personnel. They rely on gimmicks rather than brute force as its evident in both lines. So no running game but they waste time on a double reverse? Seems to me this O Coordinator guy wastes practice time. Were also running the same pass patterns from the Rex Ryan days with Tyrod. Recall that two speedsters also could not get open? So why so many on defense injured? Could be because the D line isnt stopping the opposing beef at the line. I had it with this guy at 13 seconds. That D was so weird to me looked like the game was fixed. But no, we have an idiot running the show. He also lies outright to the fans and press. They never go back and look at anything and fix it. No running game at 6 years. Penalties are constant. Every time he calls a defensive timeout the other team prevails. Pegula at least needs to fire Dorsey as McDermott wont as its the North Carolina CYA Trifecta team in Buffalo. So Terry, you better protect yer Asset NOW before hes trashed by these threse clowns. The entire national media knows it 1 1 Quote
mannc Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: "To this point, Cleveland's defense under Schwartz could be the most improved unit in the NFL; the Browns ranked 19th in efficiency last year. This season, they've been dominant." https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38625012/how-jim-schwartz-transformed-cleveland-browns-nfl-defense https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-defense-rankings/ But that would still leave McDermott in charge, right? So what’s the point? 1 Quote
Billever76 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, davefan66 said: Absolutely correct. This defense is McD’s and he is not going to change the concept/style. And bc of that McDermott needs fired 1 Quote
Tommy Callahan Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 our players wouldn't fit that system. 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 As far as a coaching resume, Schwartz might be one of the most inconsistent DC's I can think of. His graph chart is definitely a W shape. Quote
Livinginthepast Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 I was all on board the fire Frazier train for his bend bend and do the limbo but dont break defense for most of last year. But now that McD has taken over our defense is now has done the exact same thing in 2 of our wins as Frazier's and just snapped and broken in 3 of our losses. As to the Schwartz idea, there was a snowball's chance in hell that was going to happen with McD. There is no way that his ego or stubborn control streak would allow that. Too bad though, Schwartz is an excellent D coordinator and beloved by his defensive squads. One of my only highlights of the Bill's drought years is Schwartz being carried by his players much to St.Doug's chagrin! 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, mannc said: But that would still leave McDermott in charge, right? So what’s the point? That would have been a problem. Schwartz would not have taken a DC job unless it included him being in charge of that side of the ball. And McDermott isn’t (willingly) ceding control of his defense anytime soon so there would be no way for them to coexist. Quote
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