Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, HomeskillitMoorman said: Who hired Dorsey, kept him, and keeps allowing that input? It's amazing what some of you guys do to skirt the responsibility from the guy who is responsible. McD is the problem. I mean you are literally replying to a comment where I literally said be upset with him for that lol. Point is, this is Dorseys offensive philosophy and he needs to go. 1 Quote
JMM Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 That's right up there with Wade's " hes more of a punt catcher than returner". Who remembers that one? 🙂 1 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Governor said: The way this is answered indicates that McDermott is the one who is dictating the general direction of the Bills’ offense. So no, you’ve got it totally wrong. McD wants to run HIS offense. I would recommend stop reading one tweet and go listen to all 3 full interviews...both of McD's and then Dorseys. Quote
drummernut74 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, JMM said: That's right up there with Wade's " hes more of a punt catcher than returner". Who remembers that one? 🙂 Chris Watson? 1 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Who hired Dorsey, kept him, and keeps allowing that input? It's amazing what some of you guys do to skirt the responsibility from the guy who is responsible. You literally start out with that and then want him to be let off the hook for it. McD is the problem. He’s literally taking the fall for Dorsey’s failures, like a leader does 1 1 2 Quote
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: I mean you are literally replying to a comment where I literally said be upset with him for that lol. Point is, this is Dorseys offensive philosophy and he needs to go. But then you proceed to want to let him completely off the hook for it. That's what I'm pointing out. It's like the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where Jerry Seinfeld comes on and they're making fun of how people say something that's factual and then follow it up with "having said that" and say the complete opposite. That is exactly what you're doing. McDermott is the one who needs to go along with Dorsey. That's his guy and this went on for more than a season. It's the same nonsense where you guys would skirt responsibility with him and put it on Frasier. That was his guy and he had him stick around for years, and he had the power to step in and change anything he didn't like, just like he does with this offense or philosophy. It's such a joke how you guys will throw out all rationality when it comes to McDermott. He is the big problem here. We will never win a championship with him here. 1 1 Quote
JMM Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, drummernut74 said: Chris Watson? YES!! 👏👏 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: "derpa, derpa, derpa" Quote
juno999 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 This is 25 minutes long. I only lasted 8 minutes. A bunch of words and catchy phrases. Nothing of substance. No wonder the offense is struggling. Quote
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: He’s literally taking the fall for Dorsey’s failures, like a leader does He should, it's McD's own failure. He's not a martyr. He created this mess. 1 Quote
Ga boy Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Mango said: I would have much preferred and likely defended “The defense of as struggling after a few long drives in a row. We really wanted to give them some time to catch our breath, regroup, and come back out on the field fresh and strong”. Why can’t he just say we nearly lost the TB game because our D was gassed? Quote
Governor Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I would recommend stop reading one tweet and go listen to all 3 full interviews...both of McD's and then Dorseys. I just did. Edited November 7, 2023 by Governor 1 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: He should, it's McD's own failure. He's not a martyr. He created this mess. The hire made all the sense in the world. Obviously it failed. Hopefully McD does the right thing and terminates him. 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Yes the giants are a model organization huh Quote
Drew21PA Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 I’ve had it this guy has no idea what he is doing anymore what in the world it’s what is working so we are going to do something different becuase that is a winning formula duh 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, HomeskillitMoorman said: But then you proceed to want to let him completely off the hook for it. That's what I'm pointing out. It's like the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode where Jerry Seinfeld comes on and they're making fun of how people say something that's factual and then follow it up with "having said that" and say the complete opposite. That is exactly what you're doing. McDermott is the one who needs to go along with Dorsey. That's his guy and this went on for more than a season. It's the same nonsense where you guys would skirt responsibility with him and put it on Frasier. That was his guy and he had him stick around for years, and he had the power to step in and change anything he didn't like, just like he does with this offense or philosophy. It's such a joke how you guys will throw out all rationality when it comes to McDermott. He is the big problem here. We will never win a championship with him here. I didn't say anything of the sort, that may be your interpretation, but that is not what I said. What I said was this is McD relaying the reasoning Dorsey had for not running the uptempo offense. Dorsey runs the offense and calls the plays. McD is not running the team, defense, and offense. McD didn't know why we didn't run the uptempo until he spoke to Dorsey and he was given this answer by Dorsey. That is not a defense of McD, that is just correcting this misleading thread where it keeps getting repeated as if it was actually McD in game making those offensive decisions when it was not. Now if people want to be upset with McD for not firing Dorsey then fair game. They want to be upset with McD for other reasons...fine. But this typical "read a tweet" and not get all the info outrage is again inaccurate and the wrong guy is being slammed for it. You want to be pissed off over the meat of the answer, then be pissed off at the actual guy who made that decision...Dorsey. 1 Quote
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: The hire made all the sense in the world. Obviously it failed. Hopefully McD does the right thing and terminates him. Yes the giants are a model organization huh If McD's doing the right thing, he'd resign. It's like you guys don't believe in responsibility for the Head Coach for when they not only hire the wrong guy, but keep him for another season and do absolutely nothing to change anything. There is no reason to trust McD to make the next hire. He is completely in over his head, you can see it right now. He doesn't have answers for anything, and then they stop doing the few things that actually work. It's complete madness and he's at the head of it. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Governor said: I just did. No you didn't lol, that was from October 23rd lol Quote
DCofNC Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Toledo Bill said: The players are going to quit on this guy. Unbelievable. Kinda looks like they already have. Players only meetings generally aren’t ringing endorsements to the coaching staff. If players feel they have to hold each other accountable bc the coaches aren’t doing it effectively, it had better work and quick or the coaches will be done. 1 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: If McD's doing the right thing, he'd resign. It's like you guys don't believe in responsibility for the Head Coach for when they not only hire the wrong guy, but keep him for another season and do absolutely nothing to change anything. There is no reason to trust McD to make the next hire. He is completely in over his head, you can see it right now. He doesn't have answers for anything, and then they stop doing the few things that actually work. It's complete madness and he's at the head of it. Mark my words, we fire McD we won’t sniff the same amount of success for the rest of Josh’s career. Im not going to throw away one of the winningest coaches this shite franchise has ever seen after a down season. No way. 2 1 2 Quote
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