nedboy7 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 "We wanted to go to a style of offense that was not as effective cause I'm a dumb ***** who wants to get fired. Next question?" Quote
Lfod Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, saundena said: I believe continuity is essential for long term success, and while I've been on board with getting rid of our coordinators (Frasier, Dorsey 🙏), I've been patient with McDermott because I think he's a good coach. But the more I read things like this; the more comfortable I'm getting sacking him at the end of the season. I believe his skill set might be better suited to turning around dumpster fire teams and not for bringing a team from good to great. Of course who do we replace him with? It might take him a while, but maybe he's the next Andy Reid, Sean Peyton or Tony Dungy... All good coaches that it took many years to to win a SB. If it is time for a change, then I hope we can find the right person to bring us to the promise land. I also like Beane, but don't know how it would play out if Sean were to get canned. Technically, they both report to TP and presumably McD could be fired while BB retained. I am almost in the same train of thought. I am not on board with firing McDermott at the moment. Nobody can tell me the Bills have not changed for the better after McDermott took over. Although the team has some issues and if McDermott keeps throwing everything into what he is strong at and not sure up the teams weak links then I'm sure at some point he will lose the job. Edited November 7, 2023 by Lfod 1 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: This is how I feel. People want to argue if he's a good or bad coach. Is Belichick really the best coach of all time? No. He's the best coach of all time at keeping a Super Bowl contender grounded and motivated. That's not his job anymore and it's not McD's job to turn around a bad team and establish a culture of winning. It's to win a Super Bowl. This doesn't invalidate what he did well here. He is a good coach. It's just time for us to move on. Move on to who? A 1st time OC? A retread? A college coach? I really think the correct route is to fire Dorsey and bring in a top flight offensive mind with OC experience. Bonus for a failed HC who won’t get poached from here in two seasons. 1 2 Quote
Best Williams Available Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 39 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: You realize if the Bengals rolled 40 on my defense people would be blaming me. Slow it down! People laugh but this is actually it. He got blamed for the D vs Chiefs 13 seconds, so he much rather lose a game 24-18 vs 42-37 because the 42 would be his fault while the 18 is Ken Dorsey’s. This pri*k is making coaching decisions to create a scapegoat to save his job. 1 1 3 2 1 Quote
KingBoots8 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 32 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: This reminds me of Gailey’s “it was his turn” comment (ie an explanation that isn’t really an explanation). This was exactly my first thought. Chan was asked why he was playing an ineffective Spiller instead of Jackson, and that was the best he could come up with… I’m usually willing to give McD a little rope but comments like that are just not good at all. “why did we stop doing the thing that worked?” ”because reasons.” 1 Quote
starrymessenger Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 So Shaun why did you get away from the up tempo no huddle offense? Shaun: "Sole secure methoda per decevoir natura is for a strong guy to continuo continuo continuo jusqu'al plaisir brimps, et alors a l'ultima instanta switchers a l'altra gropa". Thanks Shaun. 3 Quote
Einstein Posted November 7, 2023 Author Posted November 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I really think the correct route is to fire Dorsey and bring in a top flight offensive mind with OC experience. Bonus for a failed HC who won’t get poached from here in two seasons. Top flight offensive minds typically get head coaching jobs. 1 2 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Move on to who? A 1st time OC? A retread? A college coach? I really think the correct route is to fire Dorsey and bring in a top flight offensive mind with OC experience. Bonus for a failed HC who won’t get poached from here in two seasons. Ben Johnson and Brian Callahan are intriguing younger options. Eric Bieniemy is warming up. Quote
Bruffalo Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Yeah so that’s a completely unacceptable response, and honestly kind of pathetic. McD is just making it easier for the fan base to turn on him with answers like that. 1 Quote
<bills4life> Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 So let me get this straight. We score with ease the opening drive and then slow down the tempo and style to experiment with schemes. This might explain why the offense at beginning of games are moving the ball, only to become stagnant for 2 1/2 quarters with three and outs. Then in the fourth quarter we go uptempo because we r behind and then by magic start moving the ball again and start scoring. Got it. Genius. And silly me thought you continue to use what works for you until the opposing team has adapted. If not you continue to exploit those weaknesses. SMH. No wonder this offense looks so bipolar. Must be tough as a player to find any sort of rhythm sometimes. Quote
5ths the charm Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 58 minutes ago, Einstein said: Make of this what you will. Mods if this belongs in another thread, please feel free to merge it. I didn’t know where this exactly fits in. How'd that work for you McDummy. Good time to try stuff. Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 You all should do yourselves a favor and emotionally disconnect now and not get your hopes up at all. This team is in a downward spiral fast. 1 4 1 Quote
Punch Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 30 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said: I’ve always been a huge McDermott fan… but I’m losing faith he can get us to the SB. 3 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 So many have it wrong in this thread...you guys realize that McD is giving you DORSEY's answer to why they didn't run the uptempo right? All this anger at McD over the answer is totally misguided. Now if you want to be mad at McD for not yet firing Dorsey, then that is fair game. But this answer everyone is so upset about is the answer Dorsey gave McD after they met and reviewed the game. FIRE DORSEY 2 1 1 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, jlgarsh said: Fire him Time for McD to go. Enough trying to force this team into some archaic football team that wins 17-10. The Bills D can't even hold teams to that. Our O sucks because the offense isn't designed to the strength of the players and what they can do well. It is designed to play McD ball. This is why McD and Daboll hate each other... because Daboll wouldn't listen. Dorsey has a job in a place he don't belong because he is a McD yes man. Edited November 7, 2023 by Scott7975 1 5 Quote
Mikie2times Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: So many have it wrong in this thread...you guys realize that McD is giving you DORSEY's answer to why they didn't run the uptempo right? All this anger at McD over the answer is totally misguided. Now if you want to be mad at McD for not yet firing Dorsey, then that is fair game. But this answer everyone is so upset about is the answer Dorsey gave McD after they met and reviewed the game. FIRE DORSEY The reality is nobody knows. Is it McD dictating to Dorsey to protect his defense or is it Dorsey being incompetent. Either way it falls on the HC. 1 1 4 Quote
<bills4life> Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: So many have it wrong in this thread...you guys realize that McD is giving you DORSEY's answer to why they didn't run the uptempo right? All this anger at McD over the answer is totally misguided. Now if you want to be mad at McD for not yet firing Dorsey, then that is fair game. But this answer everyone is so upset about is the answer Dorsey gave McD after they met and reviewed the game. FIRE DORSEY And how many times has this answer been given to McDermott throughout the season? Because this movie has been played way too many times throughout the season. Either way it is inexcusable on both their parts regardless. 1 Quote
Stenbar Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Einstein said: Make of this what you will. Mods if this belongs in another thread, please feel free to merge it. I didn’t know where this exactly fits in. Wiley Coyote SUPER GENIUS 1 Quote
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