jlgarsh Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 2:09 AM, SCBills said: Just wondering out loud how I’d react if one of my salesmen had processes in place that yielded high commissions and then just kept deciding at random to do something completely different that always ended up losing clients… Pretty sure I wouldn’t be cool with them telling me that they’re just trying different styles of marketing. Expand Yup. "I've closed 30 clients like this, but I want to slow down the process to be more complimentary. Need to change it up just to see other styles of closing". 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 2:25 AM, jlgarsh said: The reason they were terrible for so long was lack of a QB more than coaching. Marrone almost got them to the playoffs with Kyle Orton one step from retirement. With Josh, they wouldn't go back to the drought. Expand Great, then we can be the Philip Rivers Chargers! Yaaaay! What a joke. Quote
Reed83HOF Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 2:15 AM, Simon said: Do you really want Terry Pegula making another coaching hire? What are the odds that he is capable of hiring somebody that is an actual upgrade over McDermott? Expand Not a McD fan and think he is at his ceiling, but this is a great point and very worrisome 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 2:28 AM, Reed83HOF said: Not a McD fan and think he is at his ceiling, but this is a great point and very worrisome Expand It will be going from Lindy Ruff to Ron Rolston et al. I will bet you anything. Quote
DCofNC Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 1:27 AM, Roundybout said: Great, can’t wait to hire some mediocre Brandon Staley/Matt Nagy clone to appease the “offense only” crowd and watch us finish 7-10 every season. If we fire McD I hope he wins five super bowls. Expand Guess you would rather watch a 12-5 season (or worse) with all the wins coming over teams with losing records and never having a chance against real teams. That’s just purgatory. Quote
sven233 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) So I was right all along then. I've been saying it really looked like the coaches would see something work well and then immediately do something else instead of what is having success. The thing is, I was kind of joking, but sadly.......the coaches admit it is true. This really makes me question as the competence of our coaches. To actively stop what is working because they wanted to try something or see something else? That is insanity. Edited November 7, 2023 by sven233 2 Quote
NeverOutNick Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/6/2023 at 11:42 PM, Einstein said: Make of this what you will. Mods if this belongs in another thread, please feel free to merge it. I didn’t know where this exactly fits in. Expand 😆 no way that’s real… reporter - “hey coach that uptempo offense got you guys a TD on the first drive, why’d you change it” mcdermott - “well once you find something that works are philosophy is let’s change to something that we’re not sure will work because hey why not” 🤦🏻♂️ Quote
McBean Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/6/2023 at 11:42 PM, Einstein said: Make of this what you will. Mods if this belongs in another thread, please feel free to merge it. I didn’t know where this exactly fits in. Expand I’ll do all I can to get this clown out of WNY. He should’ve been banned the moment the clock went to 0:00 in KC January 2022. FIRE THIS MORON 1 1 Quote
Reed83HOF Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 2:30 AM, Roundybout said: It will be going from Lindy Ruff to Ron Rolston et al. I will bet you anything. Expand Listen Sean, I think you are a good guy and thank you for turning this team around. I have seen no growth in this team since 13 seconds and our offense is regressing. Very concerned with Diggs, complementary football, etc. you have zero answers... Quote
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 2:30 AM, DCofNC said: Guess you would rather watch a 12-5 season (or worse) with all the wins coming over teams with losing records and never having a chance against real teams. That’s just purgatory. Expand I would rather watch a team with a chance to beat anyone than a team that we cover our eyes and hope they don't lose by 30. On 11/7/2023 at 2:35 AM, Reed83HOF said: Listen Sean, I think you are a good guy and thank you for turning this team around. I have seen no growth in this team since 13 seconds and our offense is regressing. Very concerned with Diggs, complementary football, etc. you have zero answers... Expand You think you're funny or something? Sorry I'm not just a standard knee-jerk Bills fan that wants a little nuance. On 11/7/2023 at 2:35 AM, McBean said: I’ll do all I can to get this clown out of WNY. He should’ve been banned the moment the clock went to 0:00 in KC January 2022. FIRE THIS MORON Expand If we fire him, I hope we make the Super Bowl and he beats us. I really do. We would 100% deserve it. 2 1 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 1:27 AM, Roundybout said: Great, can’t wait to hire some mediocre Brandon Staley/Matt Nagy clone to appease the “offense only” crowd and watch us finish 7-10 every season. If we fire McD I hope he wins five super bowls. Expand We have a mediocre Brandon Staley clone as the HC, sorry DC, right now. On 11/7/2023 at 2:35 AM, Roundybout said: If we fire him, I hope we make the Super Bowl and he beats us. I really do. We would 100% deserve it. Expand Oof, this is a sign it's time to take a break. 1 Quote
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 2:15 AM, Simon said: Do you really want Terry Pegula making another coaching hire? What are the odds that he is capable of hiring somebody that is an actual upgrade over McDermott? Expand This is such a strange argument. Do you think things are getting better here? Would you not want to try to get someone who can even possibly take you over the top when you have a guy that has shown he can't do it and whose team and program has been in decline? Yes, there's always a risk of getting worse. But what are you afraid of losing here? 1 Quote
muppy Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/6/2023 at 11:52 PM, PBF81 said: Perhaps he felt that our offense wasn't inclusive enough. Maybe some players weren't happy with their roles, and in the interests of positive culture McD decided to try other styles of offenses. Maybe they'll put a tent on the field as a safe space for any player(s) that aren't happy with their roles during games. That could help. And for the players on D for which it's too much trying to play more due to a couple of injuries there, maybe a tent on-field with comfort dogs or something too. We could put snap counters on players, and once their forced over a certain percentage of snaps, into the comfort animal tent they go for treatment. It's so exciting to see where this goes!! Either way, it's good to see that our Head Coach was on top of things and made sure to abandon things that were working so that we could be inclusive to the feelings of other inanimate styles. There's no denying the fantastic culture he's built here. Expand this post broke my snark meter 🤭 1 Quote
SCBills Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 2:28 AM, Reed83HOF said: Not a McD fan and think he is at his ceiling, but this is a great point and very worrisome Expand Im not even joking when I would take back Daboll as HC in a heartbeat. And honestly McDermott might be great for the rebuilding Giants. Daboll has a connection with Allen, and at this point, that’s all I care about … because Dorsey seems to have our star QB’s head in a tourniquet .. and the HC/QB relationship is very evident in KC, MIA and CIN. Quote
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 2:37 AM, DrDawkinstein said: We have a mediocre Brandon Staley clone as the HC, sorry DC, right now. Oof, this is a sign it's time to take a break. Expand I simply refuse to fire the coach with a 72-43 record and three-straight division titles because we're 5-4. It's madness. 1 Quote
Reed83HOF Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 2:35 AM, Roundybout said: You think you're funny or something? Sorry I'm not just a standard knee-jerk Bills fan that wants a little nuance. Expand So tell me - why does he need to stay? Give us all a compelling from 13 seconds to now, why he should stay... On 11/7/2023 at 2:40 AM, SCBills said: Im not even joking when I would take back Daboll as HC in a heartbeat. And honestly McDermott might be great for the rebuilding Giants. Daboll has a connection with Allen, and at this point, that’s all I care about … because Dorsey seems to have our star QB’s head in a tourniquet .. and the HC/QB relationship is very evident in KC, MIA and CIN. Expand It's not just Dorsey with Allen twisted up. It really feels like McD is twisting it up as well 2 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) On 11/7/2023 at 2:15 AM, Simon said: Do you really want Terry Pegula making another coaching hire? What are the odds that he is capable of hiring somebody that is an actual upgrade over McDermott? Expand So we'll never make another coaching hire again. Got it. 🙄 No, I dont necessarily trust Pegula to nail it. But I think he has a better shot of making a decent hire by taking the advice of both the consulting firm he used to find McDermott, AND having Beane involved in the search, than McD has in guiding this team to a Super Bowl victory. Thems the breaks. On 11/7/2023 at 2:41 AM, Roundybout said: I simply refuse to fire the coach with a 72-43 record and three-straight division titles because we're 5-4. It's madness. Expand Good news. You arent involved at all. And thank goodness since you just said you wanted the Bills to lose the Super Bowl. Edited November 7, 2023 by DrDawkinstein 1 Quote
Simon Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 2:38 AM, HomeskillitMoorman said: This is such a strange argument. Do you think things are getting better here? Would you not want to try to get someone who can even possibly take you over the top when you have a guy that has shown he can't do it and whose team and program has been in decline? Yes, there's always a risk of getting worse. But what are you afraid of losing here? Expand There's more than just a "risk" of getting worse. The Bills best chance of maintaining success is probably to minimize the amount of involvement that Pegula has with the football (or hockey) side of operations. McDermott is a solid coach who is respected by his players and his peers. Letting Terry pick another coach to replace that is a potential nightmare in the offing. The only thing the Bills should do in regard to McDermott is hire a real DC for next year so he's not walking around with so many hats on at once. 1 Quote
YodaMan79 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 He's the anti Chip Kelly. Why try and score, and impose your will on the opponent? 1 Quote
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