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Like most press conferences, you're going to get stupid anwers like this, He'd never throw Dorsey under the bus even if he thinks Dorsey is complete trash he is never going to come out and say it and if he himself is part of the issue you can bet he is never going to throw himself under the bus either. These are just media questions and answers. 

It's 100% clear to just about everyone at this point that coaching in 1 way or another is in Josh Allens head. I think most can agree on that but we'll never know the complete truth unfortunately.

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  On 11/7/2023 at 1:24 AM, Roundybout said:


Mark my words, we fire McD we won’t sniff the same amount of success for the rest of Josh’s career.

 

Im not going to throw away one of the winningest coaches this shite franchise has ever seen after a down season. No way. 

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Who cares if you aren’t winning anything that matters?

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  On 11/7/2023 at 1:24 AM, Roundybout said:


Mark my words, we fire McD we won’t sniff the same amount of success for the rest of Josh’s career.

 

Im not going to throw away one of the winningest coaches this shite franchise has ever seen after a down season. No way. 

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what about the several missed super bowls we’ve already experienced? Or do those not count as coming up short of potential because playoffs

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  On 11/7/2023 at 1:21 AM, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I didn't say anything of the sort, that may be your interpretation, but that is not what I said.  What I said was this is McD relaying the reasoning Dorsey had for not running the uptempo offense.

 

Dorsey runs the offense and calls the plays.  McD is not running the team, defense, and offense.  McD didn't know why we didn't run the uptempo until he spoke to Dorsey and he was given this answer by Dorsey.  

 

That is not a defense of McD, that is just correcting this misleading thread where it keeps getting repeated as if it was actually McD in game making those offensive decisions when it was not.  

 

Now if people want to be upset with McD for not firing Dorsey then fair game.  They want to be upset with McD for other reasons...fine.  But this typical "read a tweet" and not get all the info outrage is again inaccurate and the wrong guy is being slammed for it.  You want to be pissed off over the meat of the answer, then be pissed off at the actual guy who made that decision...Dorsey.

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You think this the mark of a good head coach, a guy who didn't ask his OC until after the game why he stopped doing something that worked???

 

McDermott is not just a defensive coordinator, he is the Head Coach. This idea you guys have that the head coach is an innocent bystander and has no ability to interject during the game and be part of the overall philosophy is either dumb or some kind of apologetics propaganda for McDermott. Again, it's the same nonsense people would do when Frazier was here. "It's not McDermott's fault, he doesn't run the defense!" As if there is absolutely nothing he can do if he sees things he doesn't like. 

 

It's on McD if something happens that doesn't make sense to him and he doesn't do anything to interject or make a change. This is his team, it's not Dorsey's. If he can't handle it, which he very clearly can't, he needs to go. Not just Dorsey, that doesn't solve the biggest problem. 

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I don't think I saw it last night, but I've seen other games where McD is actively talking on the headset and covering his mouth with a playsheet while the team is on OFFENSE.  It suggests to me that he is more active in the play calling vs. just delegating to Dorsey.  I could be wrong, but I think his nature is to be very controlling.  That said, they should still move on from Dorsey....the sooner the better.

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  On 11/7/2023 at 1:25 AM, DCofNC said:

Who cares if you aren’t winning anything that matters?

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Great, can’t wait to hire some mediocre Brandon Staley/Matt Nagy clone to appease the “offense only” crowd and watch us finish 7-10 every season. 
 

If we fire McD I hope he wins five super bowls. 

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  On 11/7/2023 at 1:24 AM, Roundybout said:


Mark my words, we fire McD we won’t sniff the same amount of success for the rest of Josh’s career.

 

Im not going to throw away one of the winningest coaches this shite franchise has ever seen after a down season. No way. 

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As I heard on a podcast somewhere, McD is the modern day version of Matty Schottenheimer and/or Chuck Knox.  He will only get this team so far, but never to the very top.

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  On 11/7/2023 at 1:24 AM, Roundybout said:


Mark my words, we fire McD we won’t sniff the same amount of success for the rest of Josh’s career.

 

Im not going to throw away one of the winningest coaches this shite franchise has ever seen after a down season. No way. 

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What success? We made it to an AFC Championship 3 years ago and it's been downhill ever since, including the 13 seconds debacle. Do you believe things are getting better here?

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  On 11/7/2023 at 1:27 AM, Roundybout said:


Great, can’t wait to hire some mediocre Brandon Staley/Matt Nagy clone to appease the “offense only” crowd and watch us finish 7-10 every season. 
 

If we fire McD I hope he wins five super bowls. 

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Why do you feel no one else could have success with this roster?

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  On 11/7/2023 at 1:28 AM, Carmel Corn said:

As I heard on a podcast somewhere, McD is the modern day version of Matty Schottenheimer and/or Chuck Knox.  He will only get this team so far, but never to the very top.

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Yeah I’ve heard the stupid Schottenheimer comparison a billion times. 
 

 

You do not throw away the coach who turned this pathetic loser franchise around. Not unless there are MULTIPLE tank seasons. 

  On 11/7/2023 at 1:29 AM, Einstein said:

 

Why do you feel no one else could have success with this roster?

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I don’t see anyone out there who could be better. I really don’t. 

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  On 11/7/2023 at 1:27 AM, Roundybout said:


Great, can’t wait to hire some mediocre Brandon Staley/Matt Nagy clone to appease the “offense only” crowd and watch us finish 7-10 every season. 
 

If we fire McD I hope he wins five super bowls. 

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That’s why Beane has to go too. The team isn’t built very well. You’re probably right about that.

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McChump preaches accountability but then when it's time to admit responsibility he doesn't know.

 

I am glad people are finally waking up to this fraud. I hate that it took so long.

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  On 11/7/2023 at 1:24 AM, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

Like most press conferences, you're going to get stupid anwers like this, He'd never throw Dorsey under the bus even if he thinks Dorsey is complete trash he is never going to come out and say it and if he himself is part of the issue you can bet he is never going to throw himself under the bus either. These are just media questions and answers. 

It's 100% clear to just about everyone at this point that coaching in 1 way or another is in Josh Allens head. I think most can agree on that but we'll never know the complete truth unfortunately.

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McD is not above throwing someone under the bus. See 13 seconds. He's not some honorable leader that took the fall. He basically told us it was someone else's fault for not relaying what he supposedly wanted, if we believe that. I'm not sure I do, but either way he did throw the old ST coach under the bus to everyone. 

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  On 11/7/2023 at 1:31 AM, Governor said:

That’s why Beane has to go too. The team isn’t built very well. You’re probably right about that.

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Great! Blow it all up! Let’s waste MORE of Josh Allen! Hell, trade him and grab Crybaby the Clown outta USC!

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