Deonte Harty Usage/Plan?

[YodaMan79]

What the offensive coaching staff has done, and last year to an extent with Knox and Hines is confusing.  Why invest the assets financially and draft wise, if they don't/didn't have a plan for them in the system.  I watched Harty (Harris) with the Saints in 21 (with garbage QB play), and know he was an All-Pro KR specialist in 19.  The young man has a quick twitch this team could use.  I envisioned a Percy Harvin (Vikings 09-12) role to some extent, with that being a ceiling, and Tony with Chiefs being the floor.  He could really help with those quick throws in space, making an opposing DC think a little more about pressure and zone packages, because we know the run game isn't going to garner any respect.  Besides Diggs, who has the ability to be a game breaker?    

 

You give Harty a respectable contract for a WR coming off an injury, why, if you're not going to use him?

You sign Knox to an upper tier TE contract, and then proceed to ignore him for huge parts of 22.

You take on Hines' contract, for what?  Yes he's hurt, but they were committed to pay him upper tier backup RB money.  What was the plan?

 

They could use what this guy brings to the table:

 

 

[mrags]

1. Harty sucks. 
 

2. They have absolutely no idea what they are doing and have wasted picks and cap space on guys they don’t want to, or don’t have any idea how to use. 

[Bangarang]

He’s grossly overpaid for what he does on offense. Not sure what Beane had in mind when he signed him.

Edited November 6, 2023 by Bangarang

[Chaos]

If Harty was once fast or fast twitch, it is not obvious that is still the case.  Currently a guy like Zay Flowers is fast and fast twitch.  Harty seems to be small like Flowers, but having only NFL average WR speed and elusiveness 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Chaos

[Process]

There is an out in his contract after this year that I am sure we will take advantage of. That's all I got for you.

[Success]

I was sure he was an upgrade from McKenzie, but we're using him so much less.

 

Seems like he has quickness & moves in the few chances he's gotten.  But who knows.  It's been so rare that he's gotten the ball.

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

They gave him 4 targets in the 1st quarter week 1. Didn’t work, Josh threw a pick on 1.

 

That was the end of Harty as a feature in the offense. So they went a whole offseason thinking he can make plays for them and they scrapped it after one terrible quarter of the season.

[YodaMan79]

I'll take the L, lol.  My bias from 2021 must be kicking in.  I remember that version of him catching the ball in the flat making stuff happen.  He averaged over 15 yards a catch that year. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Hard to believe, but he is a vast downgrade to Isaiah McKenzie…. 
 

On that one deep route overthrown by 10 yards he didn’t even have a step on the defender. 
 

add to the list of head-scratching roster moves this year.  

[HOUSE]

I hartly know the guy

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, YodaMan79 said:

I'll take the L, lol.  My bias from 2021 must be kicking in.  I remember that version of him catching the ball in the flat making stuff happen.  He averaged over 15 yards a catch that year. 

They said F it after the Jets shut it down. A great Jets defense. They decided 1 quarter was enough.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

He should be our Lil Dirty Plus. 
 

Would love to get a Cole Beasley Plus (and that’s no knock on Kincaid who is just not in that mold).

[BADOLBILZ]

10 minutes ago, mrags said:

1. Harty sucks. 
 

2. They have absolutely no idea what they are doing and have wasted picks and cap space on guys they don’t want to, or don’t have any idea how to use. 

 

 

You had it at 1.  

 

The rest is irrelevant with regard to Sharty..........because of 1.

[Nuncha]

28 minutes ago, YodaMan79 said:

What the offensive coaching staff has done, and last year to an extent with Knox and Hines is confusing.  Why invest the assets financially and draft wise, if they don't/didn't have a plan for them in the system.  I watched Harty (Harris) with the Saints in 21 (with garbage QB play), and know he was an All-Pro KR specialist in 19.  The young man has a quick twitch this team could use.  I envisioned a Percy Harvin (Vikings 09-12) role to some extent, with that being a ceiling, and Tony with Chiefs being the floor.  He could really help with those quick throws in space, making an opposing DC think a little more about pressure and zone packages, because we know the run game isn't going to garner any respect.  Besides Diggs, who has the ability to be a game breaker?    

 

You give Harty a respectable contract for a WR coming off an injury, why, if you're not going to use him?

You sign Knox to an upper tier TE contract, and then proceed to ignore him for huge parts of 22.

You take on Hines' contract, for what?  Yes he's hurt, but they were committed to pay him upper tier backup RB money.  What was the plan?

 

They could use what this guy brings to the table:

 

 

Our O coordinator is Pop Warner level.  He has no idea how to use what he has in front of him.

[Mikie2times]

I mean, watch the routes he was running in New Orleans. Are we using him at all?

[BuffaloBillyG]

I don't think Harty has the speed that we thought he had. They said he looked fast inTC, but in retrospect that could have been him running against Hyde or Poyer. 

 

Shakir seems to play quicker on the field.

[ngbills]

Harty is on pace to have his second best year. The issue is why in the world they thought he should get paid that contract or have more impact. He has been in the league 5 years and his best season is 36 catches. That was on a NO team that threw 500 passes...and had no legit receivers so Harty should have ridiculous numbers even being just an average guy. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

Was Davis hurt at the end of the game btw, or are the Bills maybe exploring Sherfield in there over Davis now?  Thought Sherfield was on the field in place of Davis on the last drive.  

[Chugga]

Harty is playing the Nyheim Hines role on our team this year.  Bring him in, advertise his speed and playmaking ability, then never use him.  Still trying to figure out why Ty Johnson is back fielding kicks running at a snails pace while Harty looks on.

[Dablitzkrieg]

It was an amazing 3 plays 🫡