Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Von Miller Tre White Dawson Knox In my eyes, you can do one of three things: 1) Ride them out, be mediocre because you don't have any cap space to work with, pray to God you get some kind of production out of them 2) Burn them all after this season, eat the same cap ***** sandwich and emerge in a much healthier place in 2025 3) Cut two of three of them, triage-style, still eat the cap ***** sandwich and be better off in 2025 Are there any other options out there? I'm happy to hear them. 3 Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 White is almost no brainer to cut. It saves cap space. Stuck with Miller and Knox for another year. 3 12 Quote
babulator Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 All 3 contracts need to be addressed. Sadly Von and Tre are victim of circumstance/injury, but it's time to move on from all 3. 3 6 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Miller was always a 3 year contract we were locked into. Thats why I said the ACL injury was a killer. Took 2 years of Von away while eating a lot of cap. It was a killer injury. Knox we’re also stuck with. Another killer contract if they can’t get 12 personnel to work. White can be released next year with some savings. 4 1 Quote
dorquemada Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Yeah this really is the question. We've overspent on over the hill players and guys who will never be best of breed. Tre and Von are never going to be any better than merely adequate again. Knox? I'd give him another year 1 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Before they just cut Tre outright, I think they discuss a restructuring to a level that would be more in line with his new market coming off injury, With Knox, I think they consider his value in more than just being a pass catching TE, but his blocking ability too. As for Von, depends his level of play by end of the season. But they’re kind of screwed there no matter what. 3 1 Quote
Virgil Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Knox and Miller are too new to do anything with this offseason. Any restructure will kick the can down the road. White, unless there's an injury settlement, is being assumed to return. Quote
May Day 10 Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Douglas could be an indication they may move on from White. 3 Quote
dpberr Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) I part with White (his days of meaningful football are likely behind him), trade Knox with little regard for the draft picks I likely get back (I don't need that $ tied up at TE), and I work as hard as I can to reach an agreement with Miller where he's not a Bill. He will be interested in doing a deal if I tell him that he won't be starting games. Miller to me isn't the vocal leader I want on the defense, and assuming the rest of the 2023 season looks like last night, his days of meaningful football are behind him. Edited November 6, 2023 by dpberr 2 Quote
KHAN Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Knox is the only one physically capable of giving reasonable value for the contract. He hasn't. But Von and Tre are probably done at this point. We're in a world of **** with the staff, roster and cap at this point. 1 1 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Knox and Miller you have to keep. Not much you can do about those. Tre White has played his last game as a Bill. 2 Quote
zow2 Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 This will be the offseason that Brandon Beane will have to be ruthless. Up till now it's been pretty much apple pie and sunny days. Now he will earn his G.M. salary and won't be able to be Mr. Nice guy. Quote
oldmanfan Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Bring Knox back. Assuming Tre can’t go work out an injury release from his contract. May have to eat Miller’s. Quote
May Day 10 Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 I think they do need to seriously consider clearing out a lot of cap and paying the piper in 2024. Accumulate assets. Honestly the schedule looks much 'easier' at this time, and even with a duct tape and band-aid roster with Josh Allen should compete for a playoff spot. Then in 2025 have a new window open with a younger and hungry group 2 1 Quote
zow2 Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Add Poyer to that mix as well, although not that big of a deal cap wise.. He's done here 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 It seems to me this offense performs best with 3 Wide and Kincaid split out. Shakir has been solid and has that agility and acceleration in short spaces that was similar to Cole. I don't know where Knox fits in anymore. I certainly hope Dorsey doesn't try and force this 12 personnel concept onto the offense when he gets healthy. Quote
wolfpack78 Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Agree that Tre is definitely gone next year. I'd see what I can do in terms of trade/restructure with Von, otherwise I seriously consider cutting him and taking the medicine next year. Feels like we're stuck with Knox... which I think may be ok given he seems to be tight with Josh and at this point my biggest concern is Josh realizing he's wasting his career in Buffalo and wanting out. I'd add Morse to the list - I think he's gone next year as well. Quote
Billl Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Tear it down, eat as much crap in 2024 as possible in terms of cap hits, and start the rebuild in 2025. If McBeane had banked a championship already, they could have done it this year before the hole got too deep. Because they didn’t have that luxury, they were forced to push in good money after bad in hopes of getting lucky and winning with a bad hand. 2 1 1 1 1 Quote
Process Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Is this true on Von? When did we restructure to make it essentially a four year deal? And why? I always thought it was three. Being stuck with him for two more years after this one would be brutal. 1 Quote
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