Mikie2times Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 We outscored the Bengals 11-10 after the 1st quarter. Defense found it's footing and offense seemed to do so in the 4th quarter. Honest question. I think it's likely. If nothing else, we would trade some blows. 2 1 Quote
Success Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 We probably win if not for Kincaid's fumble (which I don't blame him for - great play by the defender) 3 Quote
Einstein Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Success said: We probably win if not for Kincaid's fumble (which I don't blame him for - great play by the defender) I've heard people say this, but where is the evidence? Say we score a TD on the Kincaid fumble drive. Then we score a TD the next drive (like we did). Let's say we even went for and got the 2 point conversion, like we did. It's now 25-24 Bills. Bengals get the ball and literally drove 60 yards in a minute and a half. They are a few yards away from field goal range for a game winning field goal when they kneeled the game out. How do we win this? 2 2 Quote
Success Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: I've heard people say this, but where is the evidence? Say we score a TD on the Kincaid fumble drive. Then we score a TD the next drive (like we did). Let's say we even went for and got the 2 point conversion, like we did. It's now 25-24 Bills. Bengals get the ball and literally drove 60 yards in a minute and a half. They are a few yards away from field goal range for a game winning field goal when they kneeled the game out. How do we win this? That's fair. And I hate it when opposing fans do that. But, if Kincaid doesn't fumble, it's at least a 50/50 kind of game. Reading the discussion here, it feels like the Bills got blown out. And I felt that way too - but I realize that's just because of the 1st half. We found some footing in the 2nd half and came back well in that game. I don't think there was a point where we outplayed Cincy, but the 2nd half was more what I expected. 2 pretty evenly matched teams. 1 Quote
Simon Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Maybe. I said in the game thread we were wearing them down with physical play and I still think that was the case. But losing another couple starters in the worst spots possible was going to make it difficult to for them to shorten Bengals possessions. With Bernard and Benford, yeah, we probably win that game if it's 15 minutes longer. With Bernard and Benford, we maybe could have even stolen it in regulation. 🤷♂️ 2 Quote
Low Positive Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Success said: That's fair. And I hate it when opposing fans do that. But, if Kincaid doesn't fumble, it's at least a 50/50 kind of game. Reading the discussion here, it feels like the Bills got blown out. And I felt that way too - but I realize that's just because of the 1st half. We found some footing in the 2nd half and came back well in that game. I don't think there was a point where we outplayed Cincy, but the 2nd half was more what I expected. 2 pretty evenly matched teams. I know, but it feels like the Bills got blown out. If we had lost a shootout, it would be one thing. But the continued offensive ineptitude is so deflating as a fan. This team is exhausting to watch, and I think that a lot of the posts on here today reflect that. 1 1 Quote
Einstein Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Success said: That's fair. And I hate it when opposing fans do that. Now I think it is fair that we win the game with an extra quarter. The Bengals defense was really slogging at the end. I just dont think the fumble would have changed much, based on how our defense reacted when we needed that final stop. I think if we are asking a good "what if" question, it would be, what if we adjusted to playing man-press very early. Preferably before the game started, since we have played Burrow 1.25 times in the last 10 months. It was so incredibly obvious that he would pick apart the zone, and that didn't stop until we moved to mostly man, but by that point we were already in a deep hole. 1 Quote
SCBills Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 It did seem like the offense found some footing in the 4th quarter. Not sure if the Bengals offense plays any differently while not protecting a two score lead though. As soon as we cut it to 6, they went aggressive again and moved right down the field. 1 Quote
Process Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 So to win games we need No sun, no rain, no wind, no snow, no travel, and for games to be five quarters We may be in trouble 1 5 Quote
Warcodered Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Do we actually go into the up tempo in the 4th with a 5th quarter? Quote
Mikie2times Posted November 6, 2023 Author Posted November 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Process said: So to win games we need No sun, no rain, no wind, no snow, no travel, and for games to be five quarters We may be in trouble 15 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Woulda, coulda, shoulda, iffa. Too much of that this season. Do you think we would have won or not? Plenty of threads to air complaints in today. This is a simple question. Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) Bengals are just a bad match up for Bills. our o line has troubles with their d line. Their o line handles our o line. they have more playmakers and get better qb decisions. their coverage forced errors and confusion in our passing games. Bills Can’t run the ball. they forced turnovers. it’s not one thing it’s everything. played out In similar fashion to playoff loss. Edited November 6, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood Quote
US Egg Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Do you think we would have won or not? Plenty of threads to air complaints in today. This is a simple question. Sorry for my woulda, coulda, shoulda, iffa post in your thread. 😗 If the Bills could of tied it to get to OT, it would of given them a 50/50 chance to win, imo. Unfortunately, most games only need 4 quarters to be decided. Edited November 6, 2023 by I am the egg man Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 No, refs would have continued to screw us using extra crunchy peanut butter with glass shards for lube. 1 Quote
Billl Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 The live odds had Buffalo with a 22% chance prior to the fumble and 10.4% after. 2 Quote
Mikie2times Posted November 6, 2023 Author Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Billl said: The live odds had Buffalo with a 22% chance prior to the fumble and 10.4% after. Sounds about right Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 What if we played on a triangle field with 5 footballs and to tackle you have to pin the ballcarrier down for 7 seconds and then yell Yahtzee! Seriously, I will echo the idea that the Kincaid fumble was the single biggest reason we lost. We score a TD on that drive and who knows what happens. Quote
somnus00 Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Is my aunt my uncle if she has a penis? Sure. But until that happens, this question doesn't matter. The Bills have 4 quarters to win the game. Just like every other team. Quote
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