Supreme Court To Decide If Red Flag Laws Are Constitutional

[Tiberius]

 

 

As Janet Paulsen prepared to leave her husband, who had become increasingly volatile over their 15-year marriage, she slipped down to his gun safes one night while he slept to try to change the combination locks.

“There were 74 firearms in my house,” said Paulsen, who was stunned by how many guns she found, but could not figure out how to change the codes. “When I went to get my protection order, I brought pictures of all of those firearms with me.”

Georgia, where she lives, is not among the 21 states with gun surrender laws that can force people to relinquish their weapons while they are deemed a risk to themselves or others. So Paulsen’s husband, whom she accused of threatening and erratic behavior, was only ordered to stay away from her and their 13-year-old twin boys until a court hearing.

That changed a few days later when she said he tried to track them through a phone locator app, a violation of the protection order that prompted a misdemeanor charge, two hours in jail and a court order to confiscate his guns.

As Paulsen and the boys rode out the week at a motel where they had taken refuge while he moved out, deputies removed more than 70 firearms from their home, a modern Craftsman nestled in a lakeside community about 30 miles northwest of Atlanta.

Police, though, left a handgun in a pickup truck parked in the driveway, unsure if the order covered Scott Bland’s vehicle, she said.

Five days later, Bland ambushed Paulsen in the garage as she stopped home with groceries. He used the 9 mm semiautomatic pistol to shoot her six times, as she tried to flee, before killing himself.

“It took me five years to get up the courage to divorce him, because I knew I would pay a price. And you know what happened when I did? He shot me,” said Paulsen, 53, a former property manager and endurance athlete who was left partially paralyzed in the 2015 shooting.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/abuse-victims-gun-surrender-laws-save-lives-supreme-104506698

 

A federal appeals court, in a Texas case, deemed the practice unconstitutional. The Supreme Court has agreed to review the issue on Nov. 7 — but no one knows if it’s to overturn the Fifth Circuit ruling or double down on it.

The Supreme Court seems to have a growing interest in gun rights cases. The conservative 6-3 majority voted last year to overturn New York’s longstanding restrictions on concealed weapons. That has led lower courts, sometimes begrudgingly, to overturn more than a dozen state and local gun safety measures. Domestic violence advocates worry that so-called “red flag” laws, which keep guns away from people in crisis, may be next.

[Tommy Callahan]

Do red flag laws have anything to do with the bangers committing the vast majority of gun violence?

 

 

Thats a horrible story, and an outlier in regard to gun violence though

 

The red flags laws but up against due process. but make sense when someone makes an actual threat of violence. Like the Maine shooter threatening to shoot up the base or being involuntary locked up for weeks.

 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

@Irv

 

What will the pro-life court do? 

[B-Man]

 

 

Not surprisingly, leftists have taken a good idea and gone way too far with it.

 

That is why it is likely that the Supreme Court will have to step in a and roll back the unconstitutional laws.. (as they have with other subjects)

 

EVERYONE agrees that mentally ill people should not have access to guns, but how we go about is the key.

 

Do red flag laws violate the 5th Amendment?

 

5th Amendment guarantees due process of law; and prevents seizure of private property without compensation, all of which 'red flag' laws violate.

 

 

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[Tiberius]

12 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Not surprisingly, leftists have taken a good idea and gone way too far with it.

 

That is why it is likely that the Supreme Court will have to step in a and roll back the unconstitutional laws.. (as they have with other subjects)

 

EVERYONE agrees that mentally ill people should not have access to guns, but how we go about is the key.

 

Do red flag laws violate the 5th Amendment?

 

5th Amendment guarantees due process of law; and prevents seizure of private property without compensation, all of which 'red flag' laws violate.

 

 

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No surprise, you side with the gun thugs

 

Keep the Red Flag laws! They get due process, a judge makes a ruling. Just like a person ACCUSED of a crime has to sit in jail unless they post bail. 

[Tommy Callahan]

According to the left. Anyone on the right is deserving of the red flag.  

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

43 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Just like a person ACCUSED of a crime has to sit in jail unless they post bail.

So 1990's. pay attention.

 

Bail reform ended that practice. It's got to be murder to get one actually held anymore.

 

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/11/algorithms-court-criminals-jail-time-fair/

 

 

https://www.propublica.org/article/machine-bias-risk-assessments-in-criminal-sentencing

 

 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

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[Tommy Callahan]

 

[T master]

On 11/6/2023 at 10:33 AM, Tiberius said:

No surprise, you side with the gun thugs

 

Keep the Red Flag laws! They get due process, a judge makes a ruling. Just like a person ACCUSED of a crime has to sit in jail unless they post bail. 

 

Or if a liberal DA is a believer in catch & release of violent criminals then gun laws mean nothing ! Ask some of those in NYC that have had their loved ones killed by violent criminals that have been released multiple times to go on & continue their violence .

[Tiberius]

7 minutes ago, T master said:

 

Or if a liberal DA is a believer in catch & release of violent criminals then gun laws mean nothing ! Ask some of those in NYC that have had their loved ones killed by violent criminals that have been released multiple times to go on & continue their violence .

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[T master]

41 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Link

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqIVYONe7Gk

 

Here's just a few of which there are many more ! Maybe if he like you weren't so obsessed with crucifying the former president he could focus on the reality's of his job & life in general but we know that obsession controls a very large part of your & his mental space !!

 

And that's a higher priority than violent crimes & peoples safety  !! 

 

Edited November 14, 2023 by T master