Hermes Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, WEATHER DOT COM said: A gain of 9 yards is nowhere near close to the value of a timeout. The play was not obvious and should not have been challenged. Whoever made that decision is a moron. I mean the ball literally hits his glove and not the ground. I get that the play was incomplete on the field, but that was very clearly a catch 1 Quote
Bubba Gump Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, buffblue said: To me it was obvious. The ball clearly tipped upward off his fingertips, not the ground 🤷 Where did the black pellets come from then? The ball clearly hit the ground. Quote
WMDman Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 I think it was a catch however it was a dumb challenge the TO was definitely more valuable than the 9 yards 1 3 Quote
WEATHER DOT COM Posted November 6, 2023 Author Posted November 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hermes said: I mean the ball literally hits his glove and not the ground. I get that the play was incomplete on the field, but that was very clearly a catch If it was clearly a catch it would have been ruled a catch. 1 Quote
Hermes Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, WEATHER DOT COM said: If it was clearly a catch it would have been ruled a catch. Just like the clear pass interference/facemask on Davis or the clear tripping/slide tackle on Kincaid. Or the clearly not intentional grounding that was called on Josh. Edited November 6, 2023 by Hermes 1 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: Where did the black pellets come from then? The ball clearly hit the ground. Ya Looked to me like it hit the ground as well. Regardless it was a 9 yard play you’re challenging on first down. Makes absolutely 0 sense to challenge that unless you’re 100 percent sure 1 Quote
WEATHER DOT COM Posted November 6, 2023 Author Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said: Ya Looked to me like it hit the ground as well. Regardless it was a 9 yard play you’re challenging on first down. Makes absolutely 0 sense to challenge that unless you’re 100 percent sure Makes 0 sense to challenge even if you are 100% sure because you're relying on someone else to also be 100% sure 1 1 Quote
BillsFanNC Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, NJKBillsfan said: You really think it was a catch? Didn't the ball hit the ground? Yes, I think it was a catch. I also think it didn't exceed the bar of irrefutable evidence. Therefore dumb challenge. Quote
BillsFan130 Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, WEATHER DOT COM said: Makes 0 sense to challenge even if you are 100% sure because you're relying on someone else to also be 100% sure Haha well if it’s 100 percent clear and obvious, I get it as why would you pass up 9 yards But that wasn’t even close to being clear and obvious 1 Quote
Zag20 Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, WEATHER DOT COM said: Makes 0 sense to challenge even if you are 100% sure because you're relying on someone else to also be 100% sure The burden of proof needs to be changed then, because his hand is clearly between the ball and ground and then it’s caught. What do they need to see exactly? The ball can’t hit the ground if there’s a hand under the ball. 1 Quote
Bookie Man Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 I agree. It was not a good time to use the challenge. It may have been a catch, but it was almost impossible to tell if it was all glove underneath the ball. The TO was worth more than the 9 yards at the time. I WANT SOME BUTTS! Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 McD is so dumb. It was 9 yards and the clock was stopped. It was probably better that it was incomplete and the clock stopped. They had 3 more downs to get a first. 2 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 28 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: I'm disturbed by the sequence at the end of the half Yeah Allen can't run a crisp 2 minute offense even though he's in his 6th year in the same system. So many mistakes and lack of situational awareness on offense. It's a problem. Quote
HardyBoy Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 My only defense is maybe they wanted to huddle up for 90 seconds plus to discuss it and they were going to take a time out anyway, and this gave them more time than a time out would, and a chance to keep a free time out. Quote
Turk71 Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Whether it was a catch or not (I think it wasn't), it's a terrible challenge unless you can clearly see that he caught it; especially in that situation. I think McD tends to panic when pressed to make quick decisions, you can see it on his face Quote
buffblue Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 41 minutes ago, mrags said: Not the point. It was called incomplete in the field. Much harder to overturn it. Especially when it’s 50/50 I guess you missed my use of the word clearly. There was absolutely no ambiguity whatsoever imo Quote
Rocbillsfan1 Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Actually thought it was a catch as it looked like ball bounced off his hand not the ground but yea didn’t think the refs would make the right call as they were horrible all night. 1 Quote
ngbills Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 Combine that with the halftime stupidity 3 Quote
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