Democrats embrace nazi roots

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

Nah, I’m pretty honest. I don’t see the point of lying on a message board for clout. 
 

Try to avoid judging large swaths of people by the actions of a handful of people. It’ll help you not be so wrong all of the time. 

😂 serial liar lies again???? 😱

 

yes yes everyone else is wrong 😂… that’s the problem 

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Try to avoid judging large swaths of people by the actions of a handful of people. It’ll help you not be so wrong all of the time. 

Do you mind if I keep this handy for future use? 

[Warcodered]

21 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

What does he know.

 

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Yeah this guy's got it.

 

21 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I’m probably your bosses bosses bosses bosses boss if you win the deal. You’re cute though

Clearly you can tell that you are at a position that has, let's see five layers of people beneath you, do to your well crafted sentence and laughable understanding of what socialism is.

[ChiGoose]

Just now, JDHillFan said:

Do you mind if I keep this handy for future use? 

Sure. Most of my family are MAGA voters and many of my friends are far more left than I am. 
 

While I’m obviously not perfect, I do try to take people at their word and avoid painting with too broad a brush.

 

I don’t mind being held accountable to my own words. 

[Wacka]

1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:

Small piece of advice: don’t post when stoned out of your mind.

JFF should take your advice. He was asking about pot laws in other states the other day.

Dems can multi purpose- nazis AND slave owners/bigots!

[ExiledInIllinois]

Fake thread title.

 

Fascism is on the right.

 

[ChiGoose]

3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Fake thread title.

 

Fascism is on the right.

 

You gotta appreciate the grift that convinces people that a party that is almost entirely left of center is actually socialist and that’s why voters should support fascism. 
 

Grifters gotta grift. 

Edited November 5, 2023 by ChiGoose

[Orlando Buffalo]

Truly Brownshirt vibes here. Cover your face, denounce the Jews, demand the other side stop responding to our attacks. 

[Orlando Buffalo]

7 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Fake thread title.

 

Fascism is on the right.

 

Your US history teacher would be ashamed of this, Nazi literally is the shortened German version of National Socialist, and is one step left of Fascism which is definitely Leftist. Secondly the fact that you lump libertarians and constitutionalists into on category under conservatism while breaking up small differences on your side makes you clearly and extreme lefty. 

[ChiGoose]

3 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Your US history teacher would be ashamed of this, Nazi literally is the shortened German version of National Socialist, and is one step left of Fascism which is definitely Leftist. Secondly the fact that you lump libertarians and constitutionalists into on category under conservatism while breaking up small differences on your side makes you clearly and extreme lefty. 

Oh buddy. I really hope you don’t actually believe the Nazis were leftists because they used the word “socialists.” That would require quite a bit of bad history and gullibility. 
 

Next you’re going to be telling us that North Korea really is a republic because it’s named the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

[Orlando Buffalo]

39 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Oh buddy. I really hope you don’t actually believe the Nazis were leftists because they used the word “socialists.” That would require quite a bit of bad history and gullibility. 
 

Next you’re going to be telling us that North Korea really is a republic because it’s named the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

Germany nationalized industries and gave their chosen people guaranteed jobs and income while taking away the people's right to defend themselves, how is that not socialist? Please tell me what they have in common with a libertarian? 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

8 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

😂 serial liar lies again???? 😱

 

yes yes everyone else is wrong 😂… that’s the problem 

just you on this...

55 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Truly Brownshirt vibes here. Cover your face, denounce the Jews, demand the other side stop responding to our attacks. 

you just don't like and can't empathize with "the other"

[ChiGoose]

40 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Germany nationalized industries and gave their chosen people guaranteed jobs and income while taking away the people's right to defend themselves, how is that not socialist? Please tell me what they have in common with a libertarian? 

I’m not sure you understand what socialism actually is. If government control of the economy = socialism, then dictatorships are socialist, which is obviously wrong. 
 

Even if you look at Marxism, how can “from each according to their ability, to each according to their need” be squared with a policy of exterminating anyone considered weak?
 

The Nazi party opposed socialists parties but used the term in order to appeal to working class people. 
 

Putting The “Nazis Were Socialist” Nonsense To Rest

[BillsFanNC]

A King bloviating and hand waving session.

 

How refreshing and new!

[Orlando Buffalo]

15 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

I’m not sure you understand what socialism actually is. If government control of the economy = socialism, then dictatorships are socialist, which is obviously wrong. 
 

Even if you look at Marxism, how can “from each according to their ability, to each according to their need” be squared with a policy of exterminating anyone considered weak?
 

The Nazi party opposed socialists parties but used the term in order to appeal to working class people. 
 

Putting The “Nazis Were Socialist” Nonsense To Rest

Two major points: you can't tell me what a Nazi and Libertarian have in common, so saying they are similar still makes you the ignorant person.

Secondly that article is based on three lies. The first two I can see how you could believe them without doing any research but the one about militarism is just stupid, socialism is unrelated to militarism, and plenty of socialist countries throughout history have gone to war. The fact that they were national socialists, believers in the idea that their nationality is what deemed them worthy of these great honors does not change the fact that they were socialists.  This article is acting as if the only socialism is only the one world version is like arguing that Japan and USA are not both capitalist societies because they do it differently 

[ChiGoose]

2 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Two major points: you can't tell me what a Nazi and Libertarian have in common, so saying they are similar still makes you the ignorant person.

Secondly that article is based on three lies. The first two I can see how you could believe them without doing any research but the one about militarism is just stupid, socialism is unrelated to militarism, and plenty of socialist countries throughout history have gone to war. The fact that they were national socialists, believers in the idea that their nationality is what deemed them worthy of these great honors does not change the fact that they were socialists.  This article is acting as if the only socialism is only the one world version is like arguing that Japan and USA are not both capitalist societies because they do it differently 

When did I say that Nazis were similar to libertarians?

 

Here’s a better article:

 

Were the Nazis Socialists?

 

“Over the following years the brothers Otto and Gregor Strasser did much to grow the party by tying Hitler’s racist nationalism to socialist rhetoric that appealed to the suffering lower middle classes. In doing so, the Strassers also succeeded in expanding the Nazi reach beyond its traditional Bavarian base. By the late 1920s, however, with the German economy in free fall, Hitler had enlisted support from wealthy industrialists who sought to pursue avowedly anti-socialist policies. Otto Strasser soon recognized that the Nazis were neither a party of socialists nor a party of workers, and in 1930 he broke away to form the anti-capitalist Schwarze Front (Black Front). Gregor remained the head of the left wing of the Nazi Party, but the lot for the ideological soul of the party had been cast.

Hitler allied himself with leaders of German conservative and nationalist movements, and in January 1933 German President Paul von Hindenburgappointed him chancellor. Hitler’s Third Reich had been born, and it was entirely fascist in character. Within two months Hitler achieved full dictatorial power through the Enabling Act. In April 1933 communists, socialists, democrats, and Jews were purged from the German civil service, and trade unions were outlawed the following month. That July Hitler banned all political parties other than his own, and prominent members of the German Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party were arrested and imprisoned in concentration camps. Lest there be any remaining questions about the political character of the Nazi revolution, Hitler ordered the murder of Gregor Strasser, an act that was carried out on June 30, 1934, during the Night of the Long Knives. Any remaining traces of socialist thought in the Nazi Party had been extinguished.”

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[Orlando Buffalo]

2 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

When did I say that Nazis were similar to libertarians?

 

Here’s a better article:

 

Were the Nazis Socialists?

 

“Over the following years the brothers Otto and Gregor Strasser did much to grow the party by tying Hitler’s racist nationalism to socialist rhetoric that appealed to the suffering lower middle classes. In doing so, the Strassers also succeeded in expanding the Nazi reach beyond its traditional Bavarian base. By the late 1920s, however, with the German economy in free fall, Hitler had enlisted support from wealthy industrialists who sought to pursue avowedly anti-socialist policies. Otto Strasser soon recognized that the Nazis were neither a party of socialists nor a party of workers, and in 1930 he broke away to form the anti-capitalist Schwarze Front (Black Front). Gregor remained the head of the left wing of the Nazi Party, but the lot for the ideological soul of the party had been cast.

Hitler allied himself with leaders of German conservative and nationalist movements, and in January 1933 German President Paul von Hindenburgappointed him chancellor. Hitler’s Third Reich had been born, and it was entirely fascist in character. Within two months Hitler achieved full dictatorial power through the Enabling Act. In April 1933 communists, socialists, democrats, and Jews were purged from the German civil service, and trade unions were outlawed the following month. That July Hitler banned all political parties other than his own, and prominent members of the German Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party were arrested and imprisoned in concentration camps. Lest there be any remaining questions about the political character of the Nazi revolution, Hitler ordered the murder of Gregor Strasser, an act that was carried out on June 30, 1934, during the Night of the Long Knives. Any remaining traces of socialist thought in the Nazi Party had been extinguished.”

So your argument is he was a socialist until he decided that he could become a dictator? Yes from 1934 on he was an authoritarian dictator. He purged the government of anyone not loyal to him, regardless of political beliefs. He nailed anyone who was his political rival making up charges as he went, not just socialists. To make a statement that he went after only socialists is wrong and stupid. Along with his dissolution of the trade unions, which he did so that the government could take over the role of controller of materials.

Your other point is that you called them right wing, I ask again what do they have in common with libertarian beliefs, which is a right wing ideology?