Tiberius Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 On 11/11/2023 at 3:27 PM, All_Pro_Bills said: The majority of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck while carrying large credit card balances and other debt. Somewhere in the Bible is a quote that "A man in debt is a slave". My dad used to say if you have no degree of financial independence from that weekly paycheck you'll never have any real freedom to once in a while say shove it to the system. I think this is true. Slaves can't go into debt. That's something free people do 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 Peonage Peonage, also called debt slavery or debt servitude, is a system where an employer compels a worker to pay off a debt with work. Legally, peonage was outlawed by Congress in 1867. However, after Reconstruction, many Southern black men were swept into peonage though different methods, and the system was not completely eradicated until the 1940s. Debt slavery | Definition, History, & Facts | Britannica Indentured slavery, Peanage and slavery are all in the same sphere. Eff, for a period of time and do this day in parts of the world. Children are sold for the debts of the parents.
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Slaves can't go into debt. That's something free people do You can convince yourself of anything you'd like but tell that to people working 3 jobs paying 24% interest on their credit cards living one-week away from being out in the streets. 2
Tiberius Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 Just now, All_Pro_Bills said: You can convince yourself of anything you'd like but tell that to people working 3 jobs paying 24% interest on their credit cards living one-week away from being out in the streets. I get that, but it really comes down to personal choices, right? Bankruptcy laws are pretty lenient, too Look at all the people wasting money on casinos and sports gambling. Are they slaves? 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 Just now, Tiberius said: I get that, but it really comes down to personal choices, right? Bankruptcy laws are pretty lenient, too Look at all the people wasting money on casinos and sports gambling. Are they slaves? Slaves to an addiction. 1
Tiberius Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Slaves to an addiction. Sure are. And so many older Americans have the money to waste
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Sure are. And so many older Americans have the money to waste But grandmas going to the casino to spend 20 to 50 dollars on slots and maybe accumulate casino points to "earn" some free gifts and food credits aren't the demographic with the problem. Men 21 to 40 at the poker tables and sports betting are the heavy gamblers. 1
Tiberius Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 Just now, All_Pro_Bills said: But grandmas going to the casino to spend 20 to 50 dollars on slots and maybe accumulate casino points to "earn" some free gifts and food credits aren't the demographic with the problem. Men 21 to 40 at the poker tables and sports betting are the heavy gamblers. Yup, I had one try and rip me off not too long ago
Tommy Callahan Posted November 13, 2023 Posted November 13, 2023 MAh. Nazis were all 1940's. today's socialists make them look like and old version of authoritarianism.
T master Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 10:14 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said: no. just no. not a thing above is true. Which party do the overwhelming majority of neonazis affiliate with? Actions speak louder than words . Oh and we can't forget who supported the KKK for many years . 3 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: My governor.. so proud I wonder if this is where the defund the police monies went to to make the people feel safe after being mugged ? 1 1
T master Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 On 11/13/2023 at 7:16 AM, Tommy Callahan said: Which one? While research over the last half century has established that some 12,521,000 men, women, and children were exported from sub-Saharan Africa to the Americas between 1500 and 1866, 4 it is becoming increasingly apparent that transnational/pan-regional slave trading elsewhere in the globe was also massive. The trans-Saharan and western Indian Ocean trades exported an estimated 10.9-11.6 million Africans toward the Mediterranean basin, the Middle East, South Asia, and Southeast Asia between 650 and 1900. 5 Perhaps one million enslaved Europeans from as far north as Britain, Ireland, and Iceland reached North Africa’s Barbary Coast between 1500 and 1800, while 800,000-900,000 or more North Africans landed in Italy, Portugal, and Spain between 1450 and 1800. 6 Europeans also trafficked large numbers of slaves beyond the Atlantic. British, Danish, Dutch, French, and Portuguese traders exported a minimum of 450,000-565,000 Africans, Indians, and Southeast Asians to European establishments within the Indian Ocean basin between 1500 and 1850, while the Manila galleons carried tens of thousands of Asian slaves to Central and South America during the late sixteenth and seventeenth centuries The presence of military slaves known as Habshis (‘Ethiopians’) in India between the thirteenth and seventeenth centuries and the existence of Siddi communities of eastern African ancestry in modern India and Pakistan underscore that any history of human trafficking must include the African slaves imported into Asia over the centuries. 8 Current estimates suggest that Arab, Muslim, and Swahili merchants exported an average of 2,000-3,000 slaves a year from the Red Sea and East African coasts to the Middle East and South Asia between 800-1700, and 2,000-4,000 a year during the eighteenth century. A paucity of data on the number of Africans in India at any given time makes it impossible to determine how many of these 2.0-3.1 million exports reached South Asia rather than the Middle East, but reports, such as those that Ahmadabad in Gujarat housed 5,000 Habshis between 1526-37 and that the chief minister of the Ahmadnagar sultanate in the Deccan purchased 1,000 Habshi slaves during the latter part of the sixteenth century, indicate that substantial numbers did so. Europeans also transported Africans to South Asia, and beyond. The Portuguese shipped slaves from Mozambique to their establishments in India (e.g., Daman, Diu, Goa), China (Macau), and Japan (Nagasaki) as well as to the Philippines, especially during the union of the Portuguese and Spanish crowns (1580-1640). Although Portuguese ships reportedly carried ‘great numbers’ of Mozambican slaves to India at the end of the sixteenth century, by most accounts these exports averaged 125-250 a year for a total of at least 42,000-84,000 exports between 1500 and 1834. 9 Other Europeans began to participate in this traffic during the early seventeenth century. The scale of Dutch involvement is suggested by reports that the Dutch East India Company (Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie, or VOC) shipped at least 4,700 Africans to its administrative center at Batavia (Jakarta), commercial emporia such as Malacca (Melaka), its spice plantations in the Moluccas (Malukus), and its settlements in coastal Ceylon (Sri Lanka) during the seventeenth century, and used 4,000 African slaves to construct a fortress at Colombo during the 1670s. British East India Company (EIC) ships carried a minimum of 3,100 Malagasy, Mozambican, Comorian, and West African slaves to the company’s settlements in India (Bombay, Fort St. David [Tegnapatam], Madras, Surat) and its factories in Java (Bantam/Banten) and Sumatra (Bencoolen/Benkulen/Bengkulu) between the 1620s and early 1770s. India not only imported but also exported slaves to other regional markets. Hundreds of thousands of enslaved Hindus crossed the Hindu Kush into Central Asia between the thirteenth and nineteenth centuries,10 while Indian and other Asian merchants probably shipped a minimum of 600,000 Indians to Southeast Asia between the fifteenth and seventeenth centuries. Europeans began to traffic Indian slaves no later than 1510, when 24 individuals were transported to Portugal from Cochin (Kochi) on the Malabar Coast. The size of the Portuguese trade is difficult to determine, but assertions that Portuguese ships exported as many as 5,000-6,000 slaves from India in some years during the second half of the sixteenth century suggest that this traffic was relatively substantial at the height of the Estado da Índia’s power and influence. The VOC actively traded Indian slaves as well, exporting at least 26,000-38,000 and perhaps 100,000 or more men, women, and children to Batavia (Jakarta), Ceylon (Sri Lanka), Malacca (Melaka), and elsewhere in Southeast Asia during the seventeenth century. Indians accounted for 26 percent (16,300) of an estimated 63,000 slaves imported into the Cape of Good Hope between 1652 and 1808. The British and French likewise trafficked South Asian slaves. Beginning in 1622, EIC officials shipped Indians to the company’s factories at Bantam and Bencoolen and its colony of St. Helena in the South Atlantic. The French exported as many as 24,000 slaves from Bengal and comptoirs along the Coromandel and Malabar coasts to the Mascarene Islands of Mauritius and Réunion in the southwestern Indian Ocean between the 1670s and 1790s, mostly between 1770 and the early 1790s, while slaves from the ‘coasts of India’ even reached Saint Domingue on occasion. Turkic slave regiments formed the nucleus of most armies in the eastern Islamic world by the eleventh century. The Mongols routinely enslaved and sold Kipchaks and other Turkic peoples during the thirteenth century, while Mongols themselves were sometimes reduced to slavery. Overall, an estimated 6.0-6.4 million Central Asians were trafficked into the Black Sea region, the Mediterranean world, and the Ottoman Empire between the eleventh and nineteenth centuries. Millions more were held in bondage in East Asia. Slaves comprised approximately 30 percent of Korea’s population from the eleventh into the eighteenth century Recent research reveals the existence of well-developed domestic slave trading networks during the Ming (1368-1644) and Qing (1644-1911) dynasties. Guangdong, for instance, exported slaves from its coastal areas to inland regions while receiving the same from Guangxi and beyond. These networks also supplied slaves to the Portuguese comptoir at Macau, established in 1557, which, in addition to Chinese slaves, received perhaps 16,400-24,400 Japanese and Korean slaves via the Portuguese factory at Nagasaki between the late 1550s and 160 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_on_the_Barbary_Coast#:~:text=According to Robert Davis%2C between,the 16th and 19th centuries. https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/teacher-resources/historical-context-facts-about-slave-trade-and-slavery#:~:text=Over the period of the,million arrived in the Americas. But this was all Trumps fault he is a racist right so this would quality ? 1
Tiberius Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, B-Man said: That's sickening. And just another lie by B-man Must say though, those trying to say that they don't want Palistian people killed are being labeled anti-semites. B-man doing his job there 1
BillStime Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 57 minutes ago, B-Man said: Yeah, more fantasy, Bonnie. Meanwhile, here are some of the good people Trump was talking about: 1
Tommy Callahan Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 DEMS pivot to quoting Bin Laden while spewing every ugly conspiracy about Jews has some parallels to it. 1
B-Man Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: DEMS pivot to quoting Bin Laden while spewing every ugly conspiracy about Jews has some parallels to it. Who Had 'American Youth bin Laden Fetish' on Their Bingo Cards? STEPHEN KRUISER https://pjmedia.com/stephen-kruiser/2023/11/17/the-morning-briefing-who-had-american-youth-bin-laden-fetish-on-their-bingo-cards-n4924005 https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2023/11/16/american-tiktokers-hate-america-love-osama-bin-laden-n4923966 1
Doc Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 Gonna be some interesting Thanksgiving dinner talks this year. "So [my son's girlfriend/likely fiance's name], how do you feel about your party wanting you dead?"
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