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Which meds? The one he was prescribed or the ones he stole from the pharmacy? 😀

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The St. Louis carrying 937 passengers, almost all Jewish refugees, sailed from Germany to Cuba in 1939. It was turned away and then tried to dock in Miami. Was also turned away by the US and Canada and turned back to Europe. Over a quarter of the passengers ended up dying in the Holocaust.

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9 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

 

You and other "libertarians" who are actually fascists.

 

Ok then, when did I ever apologize for being a libertarian? And what fascist ideals have I ever promoted? 

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1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said:

Ok then, when did I ever apologize for being a libertarian? And what fascist ideals have I ever promoted? 

they don't even make sense anymore.  

 

Libertarian is a few shades from an anarchist. IE, very small and non-intrusive government.

 

While they call you a fascist, where the government controls all.

 

they are out of script and just spit balling now.

 

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

I can’t believe this conversation is still going on. 
 

You have to have been hit in the head to believe that fascism is a leftist ideology. 
 


this is a leftist lie.  
 

At its core, the key element of fascism is a system of government with centralized control under a dictator. -  communism or socialism frequently a predecessor or hand in hand. 
 

Please give one example in the history of the world where a governments  power became so distributed, decentralized and limited (right positions) and individuals so liberated, that it stumbled into fascism? 
 

Once you identify them it should clear things up. 

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10 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


this is a leftist lie.  
 

At its core, the key element of fascism is a system of government with centralized control under a dictator. -  communism or socialism frequently a predecessor or hand in hand. 
 

Please give one example in the history of the world where a governments  power became so distributed, decentralized and limited (right positions) and individuals so liberated, that it stumbled into fascism? 
 

Once you identify them it should clear things up. 


Conald said he wants a third term - fascist dictator you say?

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50 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

This is crazy 

 

 

if there is one lesson I’m learning, it’s this whole melting pot multiculturalism thing is deeply flawed. 
 

At sone point there needs to be some red lines, if you’re pro genocidal Hamas, not allowed to immigrate here. Your values are not ours. 

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On 11/7/2023 at 2:36 PM, Tiberius said:

How? 

The majority of Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck while carrying large credit card balances and other debt.  Somewhere in the Bible is a quote that "A man in debt is a slave".  

My dad used to say if you have no degree of financial independence from that weekly paycheck you'll never have any real freedom to once in a while say shove it to the system.  I think this is true.

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Democrats are Nazi's why would you say that ??

 

 

Because they do fascist things like censor speech, arrest their rivals and collude with big tech and the media to propagandize the public.

 

 

 

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On 11/11/2023 at 2:32 PM, Wacka said:

Arabs were the middlemen in the slave trade

Which one?  

 

While research over the last half century has established that some 12,521,000 men, women, and children were exported from sub-Saharan Africa to the Americas between 1500 and 1866, 4  it is becoming increasingly apparent that transnational/pan-regional slave trading elsewhere in the globe was also massive. The trans-Saharan and western Indian Ocean trades exported an estimated 10.9-11.6 million Africans toward the Mediterranean basin, the Middle East, South Asia, and Southeast Asia between 650 and 1900. 5  Perhaps one million enslaved Europeans from as far north as Britain, Ireland, and Iceland reached North Africa’s Barbary Coast between 1500 and 1800, while 800,000-900,000 or more North Africans landed in Italy, Portugal, and Spain between 1450 and 1800. 6   Europeans also trafficked large numbers of slaves beyond the Atlantic. British, Danish, Dutch, French, and Portuguese traders exported a minimum of 450,000-565,000 Africans, Indians, and Southeast Asians to European establishments within the Indian Ocean basin between 1500 and 1850, while the Manila galleons carried tens of thousands of Asian slaves to Central and South America during the late sixteenth and seventeenth centuries

 

The presence of military slaves known as Habshis (‘Ethiopians’) in India between the thirteenth and seventeenth centuries and the existence of Siddi communities of eastern African ancestry in modern India and Pakistan underscore that any history of human trafficking must include the African slaves imported into Asia over the centuries. 8  Current estimates suggest that Arab, Muslim, and Swahili merchants exported an average of 2,000-3,000 slaves a year from the Red Sea and East African coasts to the Middle East and South Asia between 800-1700, and 2,000-4,000 a year during the eighteenth century. A paucity of data on the number of Africans in India at any given time makes it impossible to determine how many of these 2.0-3.1 million exports reached South Asia rather than the Middle East, but reports, such as those that Ahmadabad in Gujarat housed 5,000 Habshis between 1526-37 and that the chief minister of the Ahmadnagar sultanate in the Deccan purchased 1,000 Habshi slaves during the latter part of the sixteenth century, indicate that substantial numbers did so.   

 

Europeans also transported Africans to South Asia, and beyond. The Portuguese shipped slaves from Mozambique to their establishments in India (e.g., Daman, Diu, Goa), China (Macau), and Japan (Nagasaki) as well as to the Philippines, especially during the union of the Portuguese and Spanish crowns (1580-1640). Although Portuguese ships reportedly carried ‘great numbers’ of Mozambican slaves to India at the end of the sixteenth century, by most accounts these exports averaged 125-250 a year for a total of at least 42,000-84,000 exports between 1500 and 1834. 9  Other Europeans began to participate in this traffic during the early seventeenth century. The scale of Dutch involvement is suggested by reports that the Dutch East India Company (Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie, or VOC) shipped at least 4,700 Africans to its administrative center at Batavia (Jakarta), commercial emporia such as Malacca (Melaka), its spice plantations in the Moluccas (Malukus), and its settlements in coastal Ceylon (Sri Lanka) during the seventeenth century, and used 4,000 African slaves to construct a fortress at Colombo during the 1670s. British East India Company (EIC) ships carried a minimum of 3,100 Malagasy, Mozambican, Comorian, and West African slaves to the company’s settlements in India (Bombay, Fort St. David [Tegnapatam], Madras, Surat) and its factories in Java (Bantam/Banten) and Sumatra (Bencoolen/Benkulen/Bengkulu) between the 1620s and early 1770s.

 

India not only imported but also exported slaves to other regional markets. Hundreds of thousands of enslaved Hindus crossed the Hindu Kush into Central Asia between the thirteenth and nineteenth centuries,10  while Indian and other Asian merchants probably shipped a minimum of 600,000 Indians to Southeast Asia between the fifteenth and seventeenth centuries. Europeans began to traffic Indian slaves no later than 1510, when 24 individuals were transported to Portugal from Cochin (Kochi) on the Malabar Coast. The size of the Portuguese trade is difficult to determine, but assertions that Portuguese ships exported as many as 5,000-6,000 slaves from India in some years during the second half of the sixteenth century suggest that this traffic was relatively substantial at the height of the Estado da Índia’s power and influence. The VOC actively traded Indian slaves as well, exporting at least 26,000-38,000 and perhaps 100,000 or more men, women, and children to Batavia (Jakarta), Ceylon (Sri Lanka), Malacca (Melaka), and elsewhere in Southeast Asia during the seventeenth century. Indians accounted for 26 percent (16,300) of an estimated 63,000 slaves imported into the Cape of Good Hope between 1652 and 1808. The British and French likewise trafficked South Asian slaves. Beginning in 1622, EIC officials shipped Indians to the company’s factories at Bantam and Bencoolen and its colony of St. Helena in the South Atlantic. The French exported as many as 24,000 slaves from Bengal and comptoirs along the Coromandel and Malabar coasts to the Mascarene Islands of Mauritius and Réunion in the southwestern Indian Ocean between the 1670s and 1790s, mostly between 1770 and the early 1790s, while slaves from the ‘coasts of India’ even reached Saint Domingue on occasion.

 

 Turkic slave regiments formed the nucleus of most armies in the eastern Islamic world by the eleventh century. The Mongols routinely enslaved and sold Kipchaks and other Turkic peoples during the thirteenth century, while Mongols themselves were sometimes reduced to slavery. Overall, an estimated 6.0-6.4 million Central Asians were trafficked into the Black Sea region, the Mediterranean world, and the Ottoman Empire between the eleventh and nineteenth centuries.

 

Millions more were held in bondage in East Asia. Slaves comprised approximately 30 percent of Korea’s population from the eleventh into the eighteenth century

 

Recent research reveals the existence of well-developed domestic slave trading networks during the Ming (1368-1644) and Qing (1644-1911) dynasties. Guangdong, for instance, exported slaves from its coastal areas to inland regions while receiving the same from Guangxi and beyond. These networks also supplied slaves to the Portuguese comptoir at Macau, established in 1557, which, in addition to Chinese slaves, received perhaps 16,400-24,400 Japanese and Korean slaves via the Portuguese factory at Nagasaki between the late 1550s and 160

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_on_the_Barbary_Coast#:~:text=According to Robert Davis%2C between,the 16th and 19th centuries.

 

 

 

https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/teacher-resources/historical-context-facts-about-slave-trade-and-slavery#:~:text=Over the period of the,million arrived in the Americas.

 

 

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