Bills sign DT Linval Joseph---Elam to IR

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Not really close to the biggest game. It’s a big game sure. They’ll get bigger as the year goes on.

especially if they lose this one and end up on the outside looking in down the stretch 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, NoSaint said:

especially if they lose this one and end up on the outside looking in down the stretch 

If they miss the playoffs this isn’t the game we’ll complain about.

[NoSaint]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If they miss the playoffs this isn’t the game we’ll complain about.

that it’s not the most egregious doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be all in on it or the week after is more important 

 

it’s a big afc game head to head with a team we may fight for a wild card, or even home field later 

[SoTier]

11 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Seems like these old players just want to play half the season and its a way to extend their careers

 

 

 

Exactly.  They've made their big bucks, and now they'd like to get a ring rather than labor for more $$$ on a cellar dweller.

 

I think that these FA veterans like to wait until after the trade deadline because it puts them in the best position to get the best deal from the team they like the best since there's no chance of any monster trade disrupting a team's prospects for the playoffs.

 

 

4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Honestly rather they not play Joseph and Fournette this week. Give them a couple weeks of practice before gradually inserting them into the lineup. I can see muscle strain now.

 

 

 

I don't think either Joseph or Fournette were just lounging on their sofas.   Staying fit is a way of life for professional athletes, and for older veterans who plan to sign  with a contender well after the start of the season, staying in playing shape is part of the plan.  The OLer who supposedly "came off the sofa" to fill in on the Giants' OL a couple of weeks ago stepped right in and held his own.  He had to be in pretty good shape to do that.

 

Edited November 3, 2023 by SoTier

[Royale with Cheese]

11 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Seems like these old players just want to play half the season and its a way to extend their careers

 

 

 

It makes sense...they have earned it.

[Augie]

10 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Great job. You answered the question before it was asked. Hopefully no one will ask why he lingered on the free agent market for so long... 

 

 

Yes... exactly. You also answered the question before it was asked. Good job.

 

 

... nothing personal but this is not a very good question.

 

 

Exactly. This is why he was still available.

 

 

Obviously... to some of us but some people have comprehension problems... or simply would rather post than read... good job on you though.

 

 

Yes. True.

 

 

You're absolutely correct. A pretty simple concept. Hopefully no one persists in asking the stupid question.

 

 

Agreed. 

 

 

This has already been painstakingly addressed by 7 posts before yours. You should read before you post.

 

 

Sigh... 

 

 

Yes... thank you for understanding this exceedingly simple concept.

 

 

Thank you dear God...

 

 

Bless you... you restore my faith... 

 

 

Yes, thank you. I'm now convinced that no one will ask the stupid question as to why he wasn't signed earlier...

 

 

Nothing personal but this is a really stupid ***** question.

 

 

Forget it... you're wasting your good opinion on deaf ears... people who post first and read... never?

 

 

Yes!!!

 

 

You are correct Sir!!!

 

 

Thank you for a good take... maybe there is hope for this country.

 

Moral of the story (as always). READ... then only post if necessary.

 

Here's another idea... if you're not adding value... don't bother adding anything because you're part of the problem... this is the reason a 6 page thread turns into a 20 page quagmire of feces.

 

This has been a public service announcement.

 

10 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Another public service announcement... don't believe everything you read.

 

Sorry to be a dyck head. 🙃

 

 

Sorry, too late.

 

Maybe a short thread turns into a long thread because you personally respond to and preach to every poster in it. You are generally better than this, but this “read before you post stuff” is tiresome. I’m not reading EVERY post in a long thread. Some people I don’t read at all! I asked a question I believe BEFORE it was answered, and I think it was a fair question. I didn’t need a half dozen answers to it, but I got them. Rather than chastise the people who were not first to respond, I simply thank them. Maybe he’s recovering from an injury late last season? Maybe he’s trying to reduce wear and tear. Maybe he’s had some kind of illness or personal matter. There are countless possibilities. 

 

It was a fair and reasonable question. 

 

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Edited November 3, 2023 by Augie

[Big Turk]

10 hours ago, Since1981 said:

It’s so smart. Half the wear/tear for double the price. It seems like it would penalize against bad team (BB drought). Interesting trend. 

 

Well, it does, but so do free agents that won't come there because they want to win or make the team pay a "loser" tax and require more money to go there.  

 

Kinda like the rich get richer scenario, but it's more like the cherry on top rather than the ice cream.  That comes in the form of drafting well, especially at the QB position.

[juno999]

54 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

The OLer who supposedly "came off the sofa" to fill in on the Giants' OL a couple of weeks ago stepped right in and held his own.  He had to be in pretty good shape to do that.

 

Justin Pugh

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If they miss the playoffs this isn’t the game we’ll complain about.

 

Maybe not, but they need to start improving their conference record pretty soon or they are going to be on the wrong end of all the tie-breakers if it comes down to that, and this would be another step in the wrong direction in that regard.

Edited November 3, 2023 by Big Turk

[BADOLBILZ]

8 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

The expanded PS and the lifting of maximum service time for six PS slots is one of the better things the NFL did (Along with changing the stupid IR rules). It allows all of these vets a chance to hang on and contribute where under the rules of no more than 2 accrued years of service time basically kept a lot of these players with possibly something left in the tank in the league. It also allowed these vets a chance to teach the players on their team while collecting a nice check and still keeping their chances of playing alive. 

 

 

It's also turned into a place where players who are on the fence about playing can ease their way out of the league while still being around the things they will miss most.........the camaraderie and atmosphere of being on the team and in the locker room.    

[PaattMaann]

9 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

It was clearly an idiotic question from an idiot...........and now he's doubled down. 

 

Since the league expanded the PS and made it more lucrative there are a lot of veterans on teams basically getting paid to workout and help the team prepare.........in places they want to be........or around people they want to be around etc..

 

Duke Johnson got paid pretty well to sit on the PS in Buffalo last year..........but let's say Arizona decided they need a veteran to handle 10-12 carries in week 17.   Are you saying he would definitely jump ship from a SB contender who he's one injury away from playing for just for the larger pay check and potentially miss the playoffs?   Of course this kind of thing DOES happen.   A guy like Eli Ankou has to pretty much take every chance he gets.........but the practice squad isn't full of guys who are just playing for the money OR the chance to play in one more game.   

 

The practice squad IS full of guys who want to be on NFL rosters, they do not want to sit on practice squads. You are giving a rare scenario where a guy would choose not to leave his team in week 17 for one game check...and EVEN THEN I think Johnson jumps ship to play in a game because guess what?? He can come right back to Buffalos practice squad after they release him. Its the NFL, any chance to play in a game these guys take. Not just for the money, but if they get the chance to play in a real NFL game they get the chance to showcase their skills and maybe parlay that into a longer lasting contract. 

 

I cannot even believe this is a real conversation. Sure there are exceptions (getting onboarded on the practice squad until you get activated to the active roster)...but legit thinking a player would say "no thanks" to a teams active roster and choose to stay on a practice squad instead is one of more ridiculous things I think I have ever read on this board LOL 

 

Joe Marino from Locked on Bills also just touched on this topic in one of the eps of this weeks podcast and he basically said the same thing...players wouldnt say no to the active roster. 

[Saxum]

2 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

what is Elam on IR with? 

 

Ankle injury.  Occurred in preseason and he has tried working through it and Beane decided it was time to him just to work on ankle not trying to practice and play.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Maybe not, but they need to start improving their conference record pretty soon or they are going to be on the wrong end of all the tie-breakers if it comes down to that, and this would be another step in the wrong direction in that regard.

I don’t really worry about it until I have to worry about it. This game is important because it’s the next one. Scenarios will change every week. If they lose this week people will cry about playoff seeding or missing the playoffs. Means nothing. 
 

I’ll cry about missing the playoffs when/if it happens. We’ll have plenty of time to cry about it.

Edited November 3, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[BADOLBILZ]

46 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

The practice squad IS full of guys who want to be on NFL rosters, they do not want to sit on practice squads. You are giving a rare scenario where a guy would choose not to leave his team in week 17 for one game check...and EVEN THEN I think Johnson jumps ship to play in a game because guess what?? He can come right back to Buffalos practice squad after they release him. Its the NFL, any chance to play in a game these guys take. Not just for the money, but if they get the chance to play in a real NFL game they get the chance to showcase their skills and maybe parlay that into a longer lasting contract. 

 

I cannot even believe this is a real conversation. Sure there are exceptions (getting onboarded on the practice squad until you get activated to the active roster)...but legit thinking a player would say "no thanks" to a teams active roster and choose to stay on a practice squad instead is one of more ridiculous things I think I have ever read on this board LOL 

 

Joe Marino from Locked on Bills also just touched on this topic in one of the eps of this weeks podcast and he basically said the same thing...players wouldnt say no to the active roster. 

 

So to re-cap you said situations where players choose to stay on a teams practice squad if offered any kind of opportunity to be on an active roster regardless of situation, guarantees etc.. "doesn't happen"and said that suggesting it does was "talking out of your ass".

 

Now you are saying "Sure there are exceptions".🙄

 

So basically............you were just talking out of YOUR ass.

 

I never suggested that most PS players won't take the opportunity to get a week on a 53 man roster somewhere even if they run the risk of being cast adrift thereafter...........but they have the choice and some choose to stay where they are.  

 

Saying it "doesn't happen" was idiotic.   And while I don't always fall on the side of "listen to everyone else's opinion in the thread".........nobody is agreeing with your take that it "doesn't happen"(which you are now backing off of even though it renders your ENTIRE argument pointless to admit it "does happen").

[Paup 1995MVP]

20 hours ago, Simon said:

 

David Garrard was a very underrated QB, imo.

I forgot about him.  Good call.  I just looked up his stats.  From 2006-2010 he put up some solid numbers.  And given a lot of the crap QB's playing in the league today, his numbers would look real good.  

[DrDawkinstein]

26 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

So to re-cap you said situations where players choose to stay on a teams practice squad if offered any kind of opportunity to be on an active roster regardless of situation, guarantees etc.. "doesn't happen"and said that suggesting it does was "talking out of your ass".

 

Now you are saying "Sure there are exceptions".🙄

 

So basically............you were just talking out of YOUR ass.

 

I never suggested that most PS players won't take the opportunity to get a week on a 53 man roster somewhere even if they run the risk of being cast adrift thereafter...........but they have the choice and some choose to stay where they are.  

 

Saying it "doesn't happen" was idiotic.   And while I don't always fall on the side of "listen to everyone else's opinion in the thread".........nobody is agreeing with your take that it "doesn't happen"(which you are now backing off of even though it renders your ENTIRE argument pointless to admit it "does happen").

 

@PaattMaann learning the hard way that only Sith speak in absolutes.

[PaattMaann]

50 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

So to re-cap you said situations where players choose to stay on a teams practice squad if offered any kind of opportunity to be on an active roster regardless of situation, guarantees etc.. "doesn't happen"and said that suggesting it does was "talking out of your ass".

 

Now you are saying "Sure there are exceptions".🙄

 

So basically............you were just talking out of YOUR ass.

 

I never suggested that most PS players won't take the opportunity to get a week on a 53 man roster somewhere even if they run the risk of being cast adrift thereafter...........but they have the choice and some choose to stay where they are.  

 

Saying it "doesn't happen" was idiotic.   And while I don't always fall on the side of "listen to everyone else's opinion in the thread".........nobody is agreeing with your take that it "doesn't happen"(which you are now backing off of even though it renders your ENTIRE argument pointless to admit it "does happen").

 

You literally said "A lot of players choose to stay on PS despite 53 man roster offers because they like their longer term outlook with the team they are on the PS with etc.."

 

A LOT implies you are not just referring to exceptions my guy haha. Had you said "a handful" I wouldnt have had an issue. You are out here making it seem like PS guys are all just trying to stay there lol

[Chandler#81]

16 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

No, I heard it on OBD as Chris Brown mentioned it. 

@ Gugny has far more Street cred than a squeaking girly man. I stand by my stance.

[SinatraSinger]

3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If they miss the playoffs this isn’t the game we’ll complain about.

That might be the case, but it is because of those other games we have already lost that makes this one, that much more important.

[biggerdaddynj]

On 11/2/2023 at 10:08 AM, Process said:

His job is to be fat and occupy blockers. If he is in shape I would think he could suit up Sunday. Pretty sure last year he signed with Philadelphia mid week and played that weekend.

Wish we had a Ted Washington or Pat Williams clone!  But, I’m very happy with Joseph, especially this late in the season and I’m sure the compensation is very fair.  Gotta give Beane credit for the Douglas move too (heard nothing but positive things about him).  I just wish we’d had depth at LB coming into the season but I think every team is short in one or more position groups (guess LB will be one of our three 6th round picks next year or an amalgamation of late picks to move up).  

Edited November 3, 2023 by biggerdaddynj