Raiders fired HC Josh McDaniels and GM Dave Ziegler.

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said:

The Raiders are the Raiders, I recommend Rex Ryan & his brother.

I mean, why not? It's the Raiders 

 

Vegas IS known for great buffets. This could be a nice fit. 

[Beck Water]

8 hours ago, BillsfaninChicago said:

Ladies and gentlemen your new Patriots Offensive Coordinator! 

 

If there's one guy who may be more of a cannibal than Josh McDaniels, that guy would be Bill O'Brien.

 

But then again, this is Belicheck we're talking about so...

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

2 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Carr is definitely not “absolutely terrible.” He’s very slightly above league average who can get a team to the playoffs if the stars align. He’s done it twice and will probably do it again this year because NO is the best team in a bad NFC south.

I have been saying this and thinking this for years and

nothing anyone I’d going to say is going to change my mind. He absolutely is terrible IMO and Jimmy G is better. I don’t actually think it’s close. I think the saints are incredibly talented and Carr is holding them back from being real contenders 

[WhoTom]

2 hours ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said:

Another poor millionaire out of work

Time to sell off the third vacation home 

 

Out of work but still getting full pay. No need to sell any vacation property. In fact, more time to spend there.

 

 

[dave mcbride]

11 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I have been saying this and thinking this for years and

nothing anyone I’d going to say is going to change my mind. He absolutely is terrible IMO and Jimmy G is better. I don’t actually think it’s close. I think the saints are incredibly talented and Carr is holding them back from being real contenders 

I think you're alone in that position (thinking Jimmy G is better than Carr), but that's OK.

[BADOLBILZ]

26 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I think you're alone in that position (thinking Jimmy G is better than Carr), but that's OK.

 

Jimmy G looked invincible when he was on the field for a few years and some folks REALLY bought into "Jimmy just wins".     It was largely him playing for teams that were near the top of the league and him fitting into those systems.   And he was probably a better fit for what NE and SF were doing at the time (when he was healthier)...........but I agree Carr is the better QB overall.   An aspect of that is durability as well.   Carr is tough and pretty durable and stands in and takes shots and gets big plays made as a result.   Jimmy G is a fragile check down specialist at this point.   Just a stroke of misfortune that the situations played out in last couple weeks like they did in Las Vegas and TN and the Bills didn't manage to get Adams or Hopkins.

[PatsFanNH]

2 hours ago, 716 said:

In no world is Jimmy G. a better QB then Carr, who I don't think very highly of either. Carr suffered through some of the worst defenses in the NFL. Jimmy G. was propped up by surrounding talent, similar to Brock Purdy. Didn't he win the NFC Championship game throwing like 9 passes?

Well he wins, and QBs always get more credit than they deserve for that as we all know. He also has been to 2 NFCCG and is 1-1 in them. Carr never even smelled the playoffs so most people say JimmyG is better. Again his issue is he is made of glass. Heck before he went to Vegas his record was 51-18 as a starter with 2 NFC G appearances and 1 SB appearance. He has a 97.7 QBR and almost a 2-1 TD to INT ratio. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

7 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Jimmy G is a fragile check down specialist at this point.  

I told him not to date Kiara Mia...🤔

 

[Fleezoid]

There are several excellent Head Coaches that have had incredible coaching trees. Then there's Bill Bellicheck. His tree bears rotten fruit. 

[Bookie Man]

Do you guys remember when he first left NE and started off 6-0 for Denver? Then he got busted planting bugs in the opponents locker room. Then went on to only win 2 more games that season. I wonder where he learned that 🤔. And then you have the drones. And then you have the spies taking pictures. And then you have deflate gate. How many of of the Pats rings were won because of cheating? Basically ALL? I feel like this should be opened back up and the organization should be stripped of something. 

Edited November 1, 2023 by Alpo Chino

[Alphadawg7]

4 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

I don’t know he got the Pats to the playoffs with Mac Jones. That’s some sort of miracle right there.. 

Nope! But he will be back, because he is cheap and will be BB personal assistant.. or some other dumb name.. 

 

Did he though?  Or is BB the reason the Pats got to the playoffs and McDaniels was just along for the ride?

[Captain Hindsight]

20 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I have been saying this and thinking this for years and

nothing anyone I’d going to say is going to change my mind. He absolutely is terrible IMO and Jimmy G is better. I don’t actually think it’s close. I think the saints are incredibly talented and Carr is holding them back from being real contenders 

I would take Carr over Jimmy. Jimmy is a game manager who has been winning games on a loaded SF team that nearly won the Super Bowl last year with Mr. Irrelevant. Carr is similar to Cousins. He isnt the first name people think of as a good QB, but most teams would be really happy to have him.

 

49ers tried desperately to trade Jimmy last year and had no offers. I think that said a lot about how the league viewed him. Even the 49ers, who made multiple title games and a SB with him, tried to move one and traded 3 1's to get Lance

[Draconator]

 

[Captain Hindsight]

3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Did he though?  Or is BB the reason the Pats got to the playoffs and McDaniels was just along for the ride?

They won 7 games the year prior with Cam Newton who couldn't even throw the ball. It was Bill and a pretty good defense that got them there. Mac was fine and had some nice moments, but no one, other than the media calling him the next Brady, thought Mac was anything special 

[hondo in seattle]

12 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:

There are several excellent Head Coaches that have had incredible coaching trees. Then there's Bill Bellicheck. His tree bears rotten fruit. 

 

True but maybe he's not a good talent evaluator when it comes to coordinators.  Belichick has run some good offenses and defenses with OCs and DCs that failed once they left Boston.  Maybe he propped them up and helped them perform beyond their level.   It could be a case of good teacher/bad students.  

[mannc]

7 minutes ago, Draconator said:

 

Mike’s son, I think

[Low Positive]

Feels like Devonte Adams is the defacto GM right now in Vegas.

[Brand J]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

Vegas IS known for great buffets. This could be a nice fit. 

Used to be. They’re much fewer now post pandemic.

[Low Positive]

Just now, JayBaller10 said:

Used to be. They’re much fewer now post pandemic.

It even started going away before the Pandemic. Vegas used to to be the place of cheap rooms, cheap buffets and prime rib, and free drinks. They made  it back and then some at the blackjack tables. Now, it's all luxury hotels, high-end nightclubs, and $300 tomahawk steaks.  I guess that's what happens when you can gamble in almost any city in the United States.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

4 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Feels like Devonte Adams is the defacto GM right now in Vegas.

I was gonna say, this sounds like someone is listening to Adam's 

 

Which in my opinion is the right move