The Jokeman Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: Lots of guys want to move to better teams, but none of them ever seem to want to take fair market value or a little less for their services. This dude priced himself out, and will likely end up on a bottom feeder so he can make the most coin. Nothing wrong with that if he decides that, but let's call it what it is The nature of the NFL is that it's a business and players know they on borrowed time so cash in when you can because once you can't then there's likely someone in line to replace you. 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Will be interesting to see how the rest of his season goes and if Chicago is able to sign him. Quote
Chandler#81 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 We tried. Hard! https://x.com/bflofanatics/status/1719449810992783791?s=61&t=s-bkdDXJMtQhYqbJSiNmsQ 1 2 Quote
BBFL Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said: We tried. Hard! https://x.com/bflofanatics/status/1719449810992783791?s=61&t=s-bkdDXJMtQhYqbJSiNmsQ Going to guess the asking price was a first then if it was “too high”. Have to believe they would be willing to part with multiple picks; one day two and a third day pick/s. Quote
Malazan Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Roundybout said: I really don’t know what Chicago is doing. If they’re tanking wouldn’t you want draft capital instead of a guy who is most likely gone after the season anyways? Chicago doesn't know what Chicago is doing. 1 Quote
transient Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, BBFL said: Going to guess the asking price was a first then if it was “too high”. Have to believe they would be willing to part with multiple picks; one day two and a third day pick/s. Was it Chicago’s asking price or Johnson’s agent’s? Quote
Brand J Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 51 minutes ago, Malazan said: Chicago doesn't know what Chicago is doing. As evidence by the Edmunds contract. If Johnson leaves in FA next year they’ll likely get a comp pick for him anyway. 2 Quote
K-9 Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 58 minutes ago, transient said: Was it Chicago’s asking price or Johnson’s agent’s? As a rule, player agents don’t normally dictate terms of a trade, so I’d say it was Bears management that decided no offer was good enough. They’re gonna regret that hardball stance when he leaves for nothing in free agency. Unless they tag him, which would be a fun circus to watch unfold. 1 Quote
BBFL Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, K-9 said: As a rule, player agents don’t normally dictate terms of a trade, so I’d say it was Bears management that decided no offer was good enough. They’re gonna regret that hardball stance when he leaves for nothing in free agency. Unless they tag him, which would be a fun circus to watch unfold. Crazy they wouldn’t try and get something for him as I think they would still attempt to shell out the contract he’ll be asking for if his season continues the way it does. Maybe they believed that if they retain him for the year they have a better chance at keeping his services as, I’m sure like many have said in this thread, any team he was traded to would be looking at securing an extension immediately after a trade. If that is the case, can we expect an extension in the coming weeks? A failed attempt at that would surely mean he’s out the door come season’s end… Edited November 1, 2023 by BBFL Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: We tried. Hard! https://x.com/bflofanatics/status/1719449810992783791?s=61&t=s-bkdDXJMtQhYqbJSiNmsQ So was the asking price too high for what the Bears wanted or did they talk about what this guy wanted to sign a long term deal and that was too high? As the Bills were not interested in basically giving up draft picks for a rental?? Quote
K-9 Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 52 minutes ago, BBFL said: Crazy they wouldn’t try and get something for him as I think they would still attempt to shell out the contract he’ll be asking for if his season continues the way it does. Maybe they believed that if they retain him for the year they have a better chance at keeping his services as, I’m sure like many have said in this thread, any team he was traded to would be looking at securing an extension immediately after a trade. If that is the case, can we expect an extension in the coming weeks? A failed attempt at that would surely mean he’s out the door come season’s end… Anything is possible, but he seems adamant about wanting out of Chi town. Then again, money has a way of smoothing things over. 1 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Einstein said: People always say its not smart to make these moves, but the top-tier teams often do it. Eagles are constantly trading lottery tickets (draft picks) for proven players. I love that model. I do too, but we often hear it's not smart. Idk man. I look at the Rams. Yeah they are in some tight spots but they won one. And we'd still have Josh. We always hear "as long as we have Josh we are contenders". If that's true then why not just go for it and worry later. Idk. Not smart i guess lol. Quote
transient Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, K-9 said: As a rule, player agents don’t normally dictate terms of a trade, so I’d say it was Bears management that decided no offer was good enough. They’re gonna regret that hardball stance when he leaves for nothing in free agency. Unless they tag him, which would be a fun circus to watch unfold. The Bears gave him and his agent the opportunity to seek out a trade because they couldn't agree on contract terms with him, so you would assume any team interested in trading for him would gauge what he was asking for in a contract, unless they were interested in burning draft capital for a rental. Sounds like he and his agent were throwing out some big numbers. 2 1 Quote
K-9 Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, transient said: The Bears gave him and his agent the opportunity to seek out a trade because they couldn't agree on contract terms with him, so you would assume any team interested in trading for him would gauge what he was asking for in a contract, unless they were interested in burning draft capital for a rental. Sounds like he and his agent were throwing out some big numbers. It’ll be interesting to see if teams are interested in meeting his number when he becomes a free agent. 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 51 minutes ago, K-9 said: It’ll be interesting to see if teams are interested in meeting his number when he becomes a free agent. I'd be surprised if he makes it to market. From the sounds of it, the Bears made him the best offer. But he and his agent wanted to see if he could get paid better by a better team. So they were able to "seek a trade" to gauge interest. They then asked for more money than the Bears offered. And if Greg Gabriel's tweet was to be believed "no one was going to pay him what he was asking". So he'll probably just take the Bears offer and extend now. Quote
Spiderweb Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 9:20 AM, BuffaloRebound said: Agreed, bug you can’t count on Tre playing for the Bills again. Bills are in need of a #1 CB long term. Benford is a cost controlled good #2 CB for next 3 years. Maybe Tre wont mKe it back at CB, but he could replace Hyde in a year or two. Hard to say. Achilles injuries have effectively ended many careers. Quote
Chandler#81 Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 21 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: So was the asking price too high for what the Bears wanted or did they talk about what this guy wanted to sign a long term deal and that was too high? As the Bills were not interested in basically giving up draft picks for a rental?? Yeah, no, I was involved in the negotiations. But given he’s signed through next year, we could just cut him if it served us. Quote
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