ExiledInIllinois Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/10/30/23939918/chicago-bears-cornerback-jaylon-johnson-requests-trade-breaking-news-2023-nfl-trade-deadline Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 I'd say there's a 25% chance he's a Bill by 4 pm. If not Buffalo then it'll be DAL, SF or PHI 3 2 Quote
BillsDad51 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I'd say there's a 25% chance he's a Bill by 4 pm. If not Buffalo then it'll be DAL, SF or PHI Will Bears favor shipping him to AFC or will best offer win? Might not matter as he is likely a 2023 rental. 2 Quote
BarleyNY Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 He will fetch a first plus, if traded at this point. Plus a very big contract. I don’t see the Bills doing that. 1 2 Quote
The Jokeman Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, BillsDad51 said: Will Bears favor shipping him to AFC or will best offer win? Might not matter as he is likely a 2023 rental. He could also factor in a FA compensation formula if he did leave for greener pastures. 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsDad51 said: Will Bears favor shipping him to AFC or will best offer win? Might not matter as he is likely a 2023 rental. No team is going to trade for him without a new contract in place. 1 Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, BarleyNY said: He will fetch a first plus, if traded at this point. Plus a very big contract. I don’t see the Bills doing that. Agreed, bug you can’t count on Tre playing for the Bills again. Bills are in need of a #1 CB long term. Benford is a cost controlled good #2 CB for next 3 years. 2 3 Quote
BillsFan2313 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 If he signs an extension, I would give up a first. I would see if they bite on Elam and a 2nd first though 1 1 Quote
CEN-CAL17 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 If San Francisco wants him he will be a 49er…. They have a ton of picks and plenty of cap space this year. Not so much next year. Plus Johnson is a California kid and I’d say it’s a 85% chance he goes to San Francisco. 4 2 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, CEN-CAL17 said: If San Francisco wants him he will be a 49er…. They have a ton of picks and plenty of cap space this year. Not so much next year. Plus Johnson is a California kid and I’d say it’s a 85% chance he goes to San Francisco. Yea SF is the team I would not want to be competing against in this scenario. Both teams are good enough to win a championship but SF always worries about Tomorrow, Tomorrow. I dont think they would even blink at giving a 1 and a huge contract if they think he is what they are missing. 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Agreed, bug you can’t count on Tre playing for the Bills again. Bills are in need of a #1 CB long term. Benford is a cost controlled good #2 CB for next 3 years. I agree in principle. A replacement for Tre is needed ASAP. He isn’t going to get back to the player he was and I don’t think we will see him in a Bills uniform again. The Bills might be able to work a trade - and let’s face it, even first round CBs don’t always work out (obviously). So it’s not about the draft capital so much as it is about the contract. I don’t know how the Bills manage to add a top of market CB contract at this point. Edited October 31, 2023 by BarleyNY Quote
Rigotz Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Worth noting that the Bears primarily run Zone and Jaylon Johnson has been successful in it: https://beargoggleson.com/2022/01/31/chicago-bears-matt-eberflus-defense/ I wonder if they'd be willing to give Elam a shot if we throw a premium pick in as well.... 3 Quote
dave mcbride Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: No team is going to trade for him without a new contract in place. Yeah, and that allows him to dictate where he wants to go. SF seems like the likeliest landing spot. They have $40 million in cap space right now. 1 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 26 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: He will fetch a first plus, if traded at this point. Plus a very big contract. I don’t see the Bills doing that. We're about to have to draft a CB in the 1st next year anyways. Might as well get a guy who we know can play. We should also be freeing up a bunch of CB money by releasing Tre. Git r dun 2 1 1 1 Quote
wettlaufer Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 How about shipping out Elam and a second rounder? This guy is a zone corner and the Bears don't want to pay him because he's weaker in man coverage than zone. Can we restructure Tre here? Johnson definitely wants top-10 money in an extension. https://beargoggleson.com/posts/jaylon-johnson-requests-trade-chicago-bears-grant-permission-nfl-deadline 2 1 Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 If tre is off the books next year, Bills have the need and future cap space. Only way I see this happening though is if Bears want Elam. Can’t see Beane using a 1st round pick on another corner which is what it will take if Bears don’t want Elam. 1 Quote
CEN-CAL17 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Yea SF is the team I would not want to be competing against in this scenario. Both teams are good enough to win a championship but SF always worries about Tomorrow, Tomorrow. I dont think they would even blink at giving a 1 and a huge contract if they think he is what they are missing. San Francisco’s cap space for 2024 is basically gone. What they have this year is already spent next year, that’s why Lynch GM said they don’t want to spend the cap this year. But 49ers have 3x 3rd round, 2x 4th and 3x 5th round picks for 2024. Johnson saying trade me is basically saying I’m not coming back next year so get what you can. First round pick is not happening, maybe multiple 3rds, one in 2024 and one in 2025. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, BuffaloRebound said: If tre is off the books next year, Bills have the need and future cap space. Only way I see this happening though is if Bears want Elam. Can’t see Beane using a 1st round pick on another corner which is what it will take if Bears don’t want Elam. I can, since it is by far our biggest need, and Beane has never shied away from making double picks. At least, he better. 1 Quote
RichRiderBills Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Am I missing something? Wtf are folks talking about w his contract? Seems workable. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/jaylon-johnson-47645/ 1 Quote
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