Tiberius Posted October 9 Posted October 9 Yes, this dirty traitor can't be trusted he will appease, help and aid Putin at freedom's expense, Trump cares nothing for our country
K D Posted October 9 Posted October 9 Russia, Russia, Russia didn't work last time either. Sad and pathetic 3
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 9 Posted October 9 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Still peddling Nazi Germany level quality propaganda? 3
Tiberius Posted October 9 Posted October 9 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Still peddling Nazi Germany level quality propaganda? No, just the truth. Trump, you and Putin are all basically in agreement on Ukraine, correct? 1
Commsvet11 Posted October 9 Posted October 9 6 minutes ago, 4th&long said: That tweet is some hyperbole there.
The Frankish Reich Posted October 10 Posted October 10 2 hours ago, Commsvet11 said: That tweet is some hyperbole there. How so? Why on earth would Trump do this?
Andy1 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Trump is a total traitor. He’s doing personal private calls to a principal enemy of America while he has boxes and boxes of classified documents with him. While President, his calls and meetings with Putin were also private, which is also a breach of presidential protocol. If he walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, he’s a duck. The MAGA response is that Russia isn’t an enemy of America. The only reason they think this is because the orange idiot tells them. If Obama was doing secret calls with our adversary, the MAGA media would instantly call him a traitor. Dictators are good, democracies are bad in trump land. 2
Commsvet11 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: How so? Why on earth would Trump do this? POC testing that’s why, during the pandemic hospitals and reference labs didn’t buy new equipment the manufacturers piggy back on existing PCR technology , take for an example a Cepheid instrument that used PCR to detect Strep Flu A/B and RSV, the manufacturer just added a master mix cartridge for Covid-19. You read that tweet it’s like everybody had to get new equipment and Trump held back millions so people would die. Then again on this site I’m MAGA so I can’t be a MLS I can only be a stupid red neck. 1 1
BillsFanNC Posted October 10 Posted October 10 7 minutes ago, Commsvet11 said: POC testing that’s why, during the pandemic hospitals and reference labs didn’t buy new equipment the manufacturers piggy back on existing PCR technology , take for an example a Cepheid instrument that used PCR to detect Strep Flu A/B and RSV, the manufacturer just added a master mix cartridge for Covid-19. You read that tweet it’s like everybody had to get new equipment and Trump held back millions so people would die. Then again on this site I’m MAGA so I can’t be a MLS I can only be a stupid red neck. You're called MAGA by morons who have zero clue about what any of what you posted above means. But they "followed the science" so they're all experts!
Commsvet11 Posted October 10 Posted October 10 40 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: You're called MAGA by morons who have zero clue about what any of what you posted above means. But they "followed the science" so they're all experts! let’s say the story is True and Trump gave those POC instruments to Putin and makes Putin happy and doesn’t invade Ukraine that’s a pretty damn good trade 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 10 Posted October 10 10 hours ago, Commsvet11 said: let’s say the story is True and Trump gave those POC instruments to Putin and makes Putin happy and doesn’t invade Ukraine that’s a pretty damn good trade Such bs. We didn’t have any Covid tests for months in our local hospitals. They were send outs to Labcorp etc and took several days to get back. In that situation, why send any testing materials to our enemy? Use every available resource on Americans. It seems that’s what MAGAs say until Russia is involved No doubt, the cassettes and reagents were sent along with the instruments to Putin otherwise they would be useless. In what demented universe does that make sense? Did that gesture stop Putin from invading Ukraine? I think the Russians have now lost 700000 to the war and you think a few tests were going to make a difference on Putin starting the war. He was and is determined to colonize Ukraine. This was a grand gesture meant to show trump’s fealty to Putin. You’re delusional. 1
Tiberius Posted October 10 Posted October 10 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Such bs. We didn’t have any Covid tests for months in our local hospitals. They were send outs to Labcorp etc and took several days to get back. In that situation, why send any testing materials to our enemy? Use every available resource on Americans. It seems that’s what MAGAs say until Russia is involved No doubt, the cassettes and reagents were sent along with the instruments to Putin otherwise they would be useless. In what demented universe does that make sense? Did that gesture stop Putin from invading Ukraine? I think the Russians have now lost 700000 to the war and you think a few tests were going to make a difference on Putin starting the war. He was and is determined to colonize Ukraine. This was a grand gesture meant to show trump’s fealty to Putin. You’re delusional. Can you imagine what these MAGAs would be saying if we gave the tests to the hated illegal people? But its ok Putin got them 2
BillsFanNC Posted October 10 Posted October 10 10 hours ago, Commsvet11 said: let’s say the story is True and Trump gave those POC instruments to Putin and makes Putin happy and doesn’t invade Ukraine that’s a pretty damn good trade Let's pretend for a moment that this story is even true, of which I have high skepticism because reliable media. But let's pretend that Trump actually gave Russia a few rapid POC PCR instruments. So? As commsvett said the instrument is meaningless as many labs and offices had them already for the other tests that are performed on them. And even if the instruments were in short supply (they weren't) the issue with delays in covid testing was supply chain issues with raw materials needed to run the tests. Viral transport media was in short supply. This media keeps the integrity of the sample intact as it's transferred from collection site to lab. RNA extraction reagents were in short supply. These reagents extract the covid RNA from your snot swab making it available for a clean PCR assay. PCR master mix reagents such as reverse transcriptase and nucleotides were in short supply. You can't amplify cDNA and thus detect the target Covid sequence without these. Not to mention tubes, pipettes, gloves etc. that were in short supply. Trump could have sent a thousand instruments to Putin that he locked in his basement and it would have made zero difference as it was the reagent limitations that caused the testing delays. But reliable media + TDS in the weeks before an election = more Russia BS narrative. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 10 Posted October 10 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Can you imagine what these MAGAs would be saying if we gave the tests to the hated illegal people? But its ok Putin got them Yup. Especially if they were non white. The actual number is more like 600k but what are 100 k Russian lives to Putin? https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4924544-russia-casualties-ukraine-us-official/amp/
BillsFanNC Posted October 10 Posted October 10 ⬆️ And Quack , MD who knows ZERO about the subject chimes in with more TDS!
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) 13 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Let's pretend for a moment that this story is even true, of which I have high skepticism because reliable media. But let's pretend that Trump actually gave Russia a few rapid POC PCR instruments. So? As commsvett said the instrument is meaningless as many labs and offices had them already for the other tests that are performed on them. And even if the instruments were in short supply (they weren't) the issue with delays in covid testing was supply chain issues with raw materials needed to run the tests. Viral transport media was in short supply. This media keeps the integrity of the sample intact as it's transferred from collection site to lab. RNA extraction reagents were in short supply. These reagents extract the covid RNA from your snot swab making it available for a clean PCR assay. PCR master mix reagents such as reverse transcriptase and nucleotides were in short supply. You can't amplify cDNA and thus detect the target Covid sequence without these. Not to mention tubes, pipettes, gloves etc. that were in short supply. Trump could have sent a thousand instruments to Putin that he locked in his basement and it would have made zero difference as it was the reagent limitations that caused the testing delays. But reliable media + TDS in the weeks before an election = more Russia BS narrative. So if testing capacity was poor ( it was), why send any supplies to our enemy? Why not use those for Americans? Beside the practical effect, there’s the massive symbolism of favoring a murderous dictator over everyday Americans. How do you rationalize that? The more you post, the more you appear a Russian troll…methinks you protest too much to Russian criticism 8 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: ⬆️ And Quack , MD who knows ZERO about the subject chimes in with more TDS! I know much about it. Worked in a clinical lab for a year and have several pathologist friends who I frequently discuss lab issues with including Covid testing. What exactly is the source of your supposed expertise? Edited October 10 by Joe Ferguson forever
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