Giants Jets game - Daboll's call to attempt a FG

[BillsIsrael]

Was watching the end of the game and with 4th and 1 on Jets 19 - I know hindsight is 20-20 but even before I was surprised he didn't go for it - Barkley would get it over 50% of the time and then they milk the clock. Don't make it - the jets have to start at there own 19. I thought there chances were better than attempting a FG. I was saying it to anybody who would listen even before Gano missed.
Does that not make sense?

[BillnutinHouston]

No.  That short of a FG try has a make percentage far greater than 50%.

[All_Pro_Bills]

16 minutes ago, BillsIsrael said:

Was watching the end of the game and with 4th and 1 on Jets 19 - I know hindsight is 20-20 but even before I was surprised he didn't go for it - Barkley would get it over 50% of the time and then they milk the clock. Don't make it - the jets have to start at there own 19. I thought there chances were better than attempting a FG. I was saying it to anybody who would listen even before Gano missed.
Does that not make sense?

Barkley also made the mistake of giving himself up on a previous play in that drive where if he just continued forward might have got a first down to end it.  Gano missed a previous attempt.

But otherwise I thought Daboll's biggest mistake was the same thing McDermott did in week one.  Take the ball first in OT.  Right there I said to myself Jets will win.

 

Kick off into EZ.  Predictable.

Jets defense holds Goants to a 3 and out.  Predictable.

Punt from the 25.  Predictable.

And that was it.  Most llikely.

 

Rarely would a team not take the ball to start OT but if your offense has a 3rd string QB with negative net passing yards for the game it might make sense.

[Aussie Joe]

Get Daboll back here .. Josh and McD love him … 

[BuffBillsForLife]

I personally would have gone for it but kicking the FG wasn't the wrong decision either imo.  Letting Wilson turn into Joe Montana at the end was the real problem.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

That is a FG that,should be made 100% of the time. That puts you up 6 with less than a minute to play. Gain a yard and you take a knee and run out the clock. I understand the idea of going for it. But the much higher percentage play is to kick the FG and go up by 6. 

Remember that Jets D line is excellent and they would be selling out to stop the run. If they give up a yard or a TD it wouldn't matter, they lose either way.  I didn't see how long of a yard it was but even a Allen/Hurts sneak there against that all out front would be difficult. 

Daboll made a good choice. His kicker failed him.

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Barkley also made the mistake of giving himself up on a previous play in that drive where if he just continued forward might have got a first down to end it.  Gano missed a previous attempt.

But otherwise I thought Daboll's biggest mistake was the same thing McDermott did in week one.  Take the ball first in OT.  Right there I said to myself Jets will win.

 

Kick off into EZ.  Predictable.

Jets defense holds Goants to a 3 and out.  Predictable.

Punt from the 25.  Predictable.

And that was it.  Most llikely.

 

Rarely would a team not take the ball to start OT but if your offense has a 3rd string QB with negative net passing yards for the game it might make sense.

Bingo!!!👍

1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:

Get Daboll back here .. Josh and McD love him … 

Josh yes but McD a big no. 

[thenorthremembers]

Daboll played not to lose yesterday.   Granted he had crap to work with at QB in the 2nd half, but how many weeks has he carried just Tyrod and DeVito at QB?   Thats on him.

 

He has absolutley no confidence in his football team.  Some of that is talent.  Some of that is them not being prepared well for situational football, again thats on him.   

Edited October 30, 2023 by thenorthremembers

[Donuts and Doritos]

Giants should be looking for a new kicker.

[Matt_In_NH]

3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Get Daboll back here .. Josh and McD love him … 

Josh might, him and McD have the opposite of a love relationship.

[C.Biscuit97]

Daboll has been the exact opposite of coach of the year this year. 
 

still can’t believe they paid Jones after his “good” year of 15 tds. Daboll seems super cranky this year. 
 

I also can’t believe the crappy Jets are somehow winning with crappy Zack Wilson. 

[Doc Brown]

I'm guessing he won't win coach of the year again.  In perfect weather conditions the field goal is the right choice.  I'm not sure how bad weather wise it was there but it looked bad.  Just go for it and if you miss it you still give your defense a further field to defend compared to a missed field goal.

[Billsatlastin2018]

BOTH of those teams were so cartoonishly inept, it made for an exciting finish! How one clown QB beat the Bills is beyond me. And don’t forget- the other was throwing into the End Zone to beat them on the final play of the game!

 

That is how mediocre Buffalo is!

 

That being said,bthat monster #1 Jets D was staggeringly foolish and stupid! They tried multiple times to give away that game with the most ill timed, ignorant and selfish Penalties, culminating in an encroachment when the Giants Punter was kicking from the End Zone! Wildly, out of control.

[Yobogoya!]

40 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I also can’t believe the crappy Jets are somehow winning with crappy Zack Wilson. 

Rex Ryan once got Mark Sanchez to consecutive AFC championship games off the strength of his defense, and this current Jets defense is arguably stronger than that one ever was. 

[Drew21PA]

3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Barkley also made the mistake of giving himself up on a previous play in that drive where if he just continued forward might have got a first down to end it.  Gano missed a previous attempt.

But otherwise I thought Daboll's biggest mistake was the same thing McDermott did in week one.  Take the ball first in OT.  Right there I said to myself Jets will win.

 

Kick off into EZ.  Predictable.

Jets defense holds Goants to a 3 and out.  Predictable.

Punt from the 25.  Predictable.

And that was it.  Most llikely.

 

Rarely would a team not take the ball to start OT but if your offense has a 3rd string QB with negative net passing yards for the game it might make sense.

They had no shot if it went to overtime (giants)

 

knew it was over when he missed the field goal

 

devito was -1 yard passing 

[streetkings01]

It was a dumb decision period. The 3 points doesn’t give you a 7+ point lead so why kick it? You give the Jets a chance to return the kickoff for a TD and win the game. Go for it on 4th down with a chance to put the game away. 

[oldmanfan]

You have to expect your kicker to make a 30 yard FG.  Basically an extra point.

[Gregg]

Another killer play was the Offside play by Thibodeaux. That was the play where Wilson had a 30-yard completion to midfield, but the clock stopped with 17 seconds left because of the Offside. Shows you how dumb Wilson is for throwing it in the middle of the field and no timeouts. If he doesn't go Offside the Jets run out of time. 

Edited October 30, 2023 by Gregg

[BuffaloBillyG]

4 hours ago, BillsIsrael said:

Was watching the end of the game and with 4th and 1 on Jets 19 - I know hindsight is 20-20 but even before I was surprised he didn't go for it - Barkley would get it over 50% of the time and then they milk the clock. Don't make it - the jets have to start at there own 19. I thought there chances were better than attempting a FG. I was saying it to anybody who would listen even before Gano missed.
Does that not make sense?

In the rain, down a good chunk of you OL, down to QB3 and already showing you weren't going to throw. Against a really good front 7. Not the time to take that chance. That's exactly what you pay a kicker like Gano for. 

 

You try for the points and end the game. If you miss you depend on your defense that had been playing lights out up to the last 50 seconds of the game. FG was the right choice.

[SoTier]

4 hours ago, BillnutinHouston said:

No.  That short of a FG try has a make percentage far greater than 50%.

 

Especially as Gano is good kicker, not a scrub off the waiver wire or an easily iced rookie.