Week 9 thread - We’re on to Cincinnati

[Dillenger4]

Cincy is NOT a good football team. Not sure what games this season you have watched. They lost significant players on D during the offseason and it shows! Their D is bad and we will score at will.

It's Our D that is the issue and, now that we have reinforcements that hopefully play, we should be OK.

I can't effin wait for this game!!! Gonna be a beatdown boys!

Go KC - beat the fraud Phins and we are in 1st place again.

[Dillenger4]

4 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Cincy is NOT a good football team. Not sure what games this season you have watched. They lost significant players on D during the offseason and it shows! Their D is bad and we will score at will.

It's Our D that is the issue and, now that we have reinforcements that hopefully play, we should be OK.

I can't effin wait for this game!!! Gonna be a beatdown boys!

Go KC - beat the fraud Phins and we are in 1st place again.

From PFF - and there are MANY other outlets telling truth too:

The Cincinnati Bengals defense isn’t playing at the premier level we saw in the second half of last season. With that said, bend-but-don’t-break works when you can force interceptions and hold the 49ers to a 50% red-zone conversion rate. This is another step forward for Cincinnati, but regression seems imminent at the hands of Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs in Week 8.m The Bengals enter this matchup hobbling with injuries as the Bills call in two new studly defenders.

[Coach Tuesday]

This is the weekly pregame thread and some of y'all be wrestling with each other in the dirt.  C'mon.

[boater]

So far this season, we made scrubs like Zach Wilson, Trevor Lawrence, and Mac Jones look like Johnny Unitas.

 

I'm not having a flash of confidence facing Joe Burrow. I don't care how many days McD has had to prepare.

[transplantbillsfan]

 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

Any injuries this week on the O-line, blame it on Joe B in the Athletic!  He just gave us the kiss of death!

 

It’s helped that the Bills have stayed healthy on the offensive line

[Big Turk]

 

48 minutes ago, boater said:

So far this season, we made scrubs like Zach Wilson, Trevor Lawrence, and Mac Jones look like Johnny Unitas.

 

I'm not having a flash of confidence facing Joe Burrow. I don't care how many days McD has had to prepare.

 

We also made Sam Howell look terrible while the Eagles made him look like Joe Montana twice. It's a week to week league. Every game is different and it's own entity. Why people can't understand this I can't figure it out. They play once a week not 2-3-4 times a week like other sports that play 2-3-4-10x as many games.

 

Edited November 2, 2023 by Big Turk

[transplantbillsfan]

 

[Franco_92]

1 hour ago, dakrider said:

Bills gave up 29 to Patriots.  Cincinnati is just a more rounded team.  Better running game, better defense than the Bills.

Whereas the Bills - Allen has to play spectacular just to have a chance to win.  On paper it seems Bills would need the offense clicking on all cylinders for the entire game to win in a high scoring outcome.

Cincinnati's run game has been a joke this year lol

[Scott7975]

6 hours ago, mannc said:

I’ve heard deferring gives you a very slight advantage from an analalytics standpoint, but it makes no sense and a lot of teams don’t do it.  In a game like this, against a great QB, on the road, it gives the other team an opportunity to get a quick two-touchdown lead (like what happened to the Bills in Cinci last year) and your entire offensive game plan just went out the window.  There might be some games where it makes sense, but not this one.

 

If they get a two td lead at the beginning of the game then they are going to get that same two td lead whether you defer or not.  Deferring is not a small advantage. It almost always gives you a chance to score twice in a row.  

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Franco_92 said:

Cincinnati's run game has been a joke this year lol

 

You can tell who actually watches more than just the last game a team played.

[Franco_92]

Just now, Big Turk said:

 

You can tell who actually watches more than just the last game a team played.

Yup. And to be clear to the "anti-homerzzz" we are not saying they can't have success running the ball against us - they had a bad run game last year too, and ran all over us. We are just calling out posters who are pulling takes out of their behinds. 

[Big Turk]

6 hours ago, mannc said:

I’ve heard deferring gives you a very slight advantage from an analalytics standpoint, but it makes no sense and a lot of teams don’t do it.  In a game like this, against a great QB, on the road, it gives the other team an opportunity to get a quick two-touchdown lead (like what happened to the Bills in Cinci last year) and your entire offensive game plan just went out the window.  There might be some games where it makes sense, but not this one.

 

Really?  If by "a lot" you mean maybe 2% of the time or less, then sure...pretty much every game I watch(and I watch a lot of them), the team that wins the coin toss defers(except in OT of course).  It gives you a known quantity you can use to your advantage(ie, getting the ball out of the half, taking more time to run clock so you have 2 possessions in a row) versus an unknown quantity(not knowing when you'll get the ball in the second half).

 

Control of the ball ALWAYS beats chasing the ball, 100% of the time.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Big Turk

[Drew21PA]

Alright McDermott I’m going to give you the benefit of a doubt here 

 

idk why but I am

 

i could be hoping and not being smart here BUT - though they did beat San Francisco - I still don’t think they are where they were last year (Cincinnati)

 

though they did win - Brock Purdy turnovers were horrible - and he still had over 300 yards on the defense

 

sorry we have that many yards we won’t fail to capitilize

 

our offense worries me

 

their offense worries me

 

BUT - could be a game we need to turn it on and I’ll believe we dig deep here and win

 

gonna say we win a close one and gonna be a heart racing experience 

 

37-34 Buffalo 

[Billsfan1972]

15 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

 

We also made Sam Howell look terrible while the Eagles made him look like Joe Montana twice. It's a week to week league. Every game is different and it's own entity. Why people can't understand this I can't figure it out. They play once a week not 2-3-4 times a week like other sports that play 2-3-4-10x as many games.

Wow the Bills really showed everyone with their play vs. Jimmy G & Sam Howell.....  You got to be kidding???  Yes I know you are using Sam Howell as an example because he's played well vs. Philly.  

 

Next you'll go on about them stopping Tua (which Philly did too).  Tua had a decent game, and Buffalo played well.

 

And before you start I'm an optimist and all I want is 3-4 stops from the Bills Defense (i.e. Punts) and flipping the field and the Bills will win. 

Edited November 2, 2023 by Billsfan1972

[dakrider]

7 minutes ago, Franco_92 said:

Cincinnati's run game has been a joke this year lol

You're right, I was mostly looking at their last game Mixon looked good.  Rest of the year they've been pretty poor running the ball surprisingly.

[Scott7975]

5 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Agree 100%. I've yet to hear how the Bills D will be successful in containing the Bengals offense. What's the McD game plan? 

 

No one can tell you that.  It comes down to player execution. Will they maintain good zones?  Will they make the tackle? Will they rush the passer?  It's all execution. No one thought McD could contain Lamar and the Ravens offense either.  Then McD wrote the book.

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Wow the Bills really showed everyone with their paly vs. Jimmy G & Sam Howell.....  You got to be kidding???  Yes I know you are using Sam Howell as an example because he's played well vs. Philly.  

 

Next you'll go on about them stopping Tua (which Philly did too).  Tua had a decent game, and Buffalo played well.

 

And before you start I'm an optimist and all I want is 3-4 stops from the Bills Defense (i.e. Punts) and flipping the field and the Bills will win. 

 

I mean you want to point out how the Bills suck because they can't stop "x" so I pointed out what other QB's we made look terrible have done to quality defenses. Or does it only work the way you try to do it in a single direction?

3 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I think it's worth pointing out the Bengals run a west coast offense. That means Burrow gets rid of the ball quickly. Takes deep strikes when he sees obvious one on one advantages. The Bills were successful vs Tua despite his quick releases. However, it's quite different because Tua is mostly a first read QB. Burrow is able to go through his progressions and use his legs in big situations. Burrow is by far the best QB the Bills have faced. I don't see this defense stopping the Bengals O. Sorry.

 

It's funny that the Bengals offense is "so" good but never has been above the Bills in scoring offense since Burrow has entered the league with FAR better talent at the skill positions(at least according to the vast majority of posters here), which I actually tend to agree with.

 

At the end of the day the Bengals offense settles for field goals too much and usually leaves you wanting more...that is, the personnel they have suggests they should be far better than what they actually are.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Big Turk

[Billsfan1972]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

I mean you want to point out how the Bills suck because they can't stop "x" so I pointed out what other QB's we made look terrible have done to quality defenses. Or does it only work the way you try to do it in a single direction?

 

It's funny that the Bengals offense is "so" good but never has been above the Bills in scoring offense since Burrow has entered the league with FAR better talent at the skill positions(at least according to the vast majority of posters here), which I actually tend to agree with.

 

At the end of the day the Bengals offense settles for field goals too much and usually leaves you wanting more...that is, the personnel they have suggests they should be far better than what they actually are.

I know exactly what you were trying to do.  I just found it silly.

 

For the most part the D has given up too many sustained drives and yards and allowed the NYG's to almost win the game and lost the game vs, NE.

 

Yet I still hold out hope for them (the Defense). 

[Big Turk]

Just now, Billsfan1972 said:

I know exactly what you were trying to do.  I just found it silly.

 

For the most part the D has given up too many sustained drives and yards and allowed the NYG's to almost win the game and lost the game vs, NE.

 

Yet I still hold out hope for them (the Defense). 

 

I agree the D has hurt them since the injuries...it seems like McD figured something out with using Poyer in a dime LB role with Rapp taking his spot at safety...they looked a lot better on D and Poyer had a few INTs he dropped, including a housecall.

 

With Joseph and Douglas shoring up their biggest opportunities I think they have the ability to get back to being closer to the beginning of the year...likely not top 3, but certainly can be top 10.