Week 9 thread - We’re on to Cincinnati

[Jauronimo]

1 hour ago, balln said:

right - notice i said THEY cant even play him. I think Dorian can play and youll have to live and die by his play. But instead true to form these coaches and player evaluators ahve decided to play it safe and die a slow death w dodson. OR poyer at LB!

 

its crazy

He started the last 2 or 3 games and was then benched because he wasn't performing.  He has been playing.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

1 hour ago, balln said:

I don’t care about reg season winning % for a Hc 

 

Tony dungy

Marty S

marv 

 
how about this 

zac Taylor w burrow is better than McD w Allen 

You said their coaching is measurably better.  How about this, your opinion is not a measurement of coaching success.  Winning percentage is a measurement of success.

[msw2112]

Last year, I knew we were going to get smoked in the playoff game.  Before Hamlin went down, the Bengals were moving the ball and scoring at will, while the Bills could only manage a FG.  By the time the playoff game rolled around, the Bills were not playing any better, but the Bengals were in high gear.  Also, Frazier basically came right out and said "we're going to do what we do" on defense and they lived up to his word.  They did what they do and got shredded.  This year, the Bills defense is depleted and they're going to give up some points, but hopefully, they can be creative enough to force a turnover here or there that will help, and the Bills offense will continue the momentum from Thursday night.  The offense was great on Thursday, but they took their foot off the gas and played conservatively from the middle of the 3rd quarter on.  That won't get it done against Cincinnati.  They need to keep the foot on the gas for 4 quarters.  I don't know if the Bills will win this game, but I am optimistic that we'll see a better performance than we saw in our 5 quarters against the Bengals last season.

[balln]

23 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

that should make them angry and fired up.  Play a more aggressive D.  If Elam has any use (assuming he is still on the roster) it would make sense to use his man skills against a Cincy WR.  

Just like how he did vs Ridley jax 

7 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

You said their coaching is measurably better.  How about this, your opinion is not a measurement of coaching success.  Winning percentage is a measurement of success.

Yea playoff win % , conf championships, and Super Bowl appearances 

[Billever76]

7 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

We can only hope.  Issues are however still there.  Up tempo, but still only 24 points.  

 

What however has you feeling positive about the defense?

We went uptempo until we scored to open the 2nd half and go up by 14 then mcclappy and dorsey went into their coveted turtle shells and tried to limp out with a win

[Royale with Cheese]

41 minutes ago, teef said:

this is another mcd thread...right?

He disguises them so well.

[HoofHearted]

28 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

that should make them angry and fired up.  Play a more aggressive D.  If Elam has any use (assuming he is still on the roster) it would make sense to use his man skills against a Cincy WR.  

He was terrible in man coverage when he started those two games.

[Big Turk]

Josh Allen is elite. 

 

 

19 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

You said their coaching is measurably better.  How about this, your opinion is not a measurement of coaching success.  Winning percentage is a measurement of success.

 

I can't see how they are measurably better when Taylor has his offense looking like they belong in D III for the first month of every season.  How about Joe Burrow not coming out in Week 1 every year and throwing for 82 yards or 4 INTs?  Every year it's the same thing...dig themselves a big hole they have to climb out of.  

 

Good coaches don't have teams that do that on a consistent basis. Congrats he figures out how to fix it, but how about not having the issue every year to begin with?

Edited October 30, 2023 by Big Turk

[frostbitmic]

If McD has the DB's line up ten yards off the receivers on 3rd and 5, it'll be a long day.

[Billsfan1972]

10 minutes ago, Billever76 said:

We went uptempo until we scored to open the 2nd half and go up by 14 then mcclappy and dorsey went into their coveted turtle shells and tried to limp out with a win

Agreed a real issue.

8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

He disguises them so well.

Yes I'm good at it....😜

[Royale with Cheese]

4 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Always excuses.....  SF has a mediocre QB who yes needs all his weapons to look great.  The excuses for the defense never cease, especially since McD is coaching them.  Simply they need to play better and be coached better too.

 

I will agree that the offense and coaching on that side needs to be aggressive and score a lot of points.  

 

Look at what Philly is doing.  The Bills offense woke up some on Thursday, but still things seem difficult.

 

But yup can't wait 'til Cincy put up 31 (not that I want them to) and come Monday we're told they were gutsy and undermanned and can't expect any more from them. 

 

BTW Purdy threw for 365 vs. Cincy's D (ran for 57 too).  Dorsey should be able to exploit their D and Allen has some #'s to shoot for😜. 

Cherry picking at its highest!  Purdy also had 3 turnovers lol.  But we are focusing on yards because of course you are.  Purdy played terribly.

 

Why do you think SF offense has been struggling the last few weeks?  What’s been missing?

 

[BattlinBill]

While I think the defense has done well overall this year despite the injuries, I just can't see them holding the Bungles under 30 points. Hopefully the offense will ball out....

[teef]

13 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

He disguises them so well.

it's easier just to assume at this point.  

[Straight Hucklebuck]

I thought the Bills got pressure on Mayfield in large part because he holds the ball forever. 

[sunshynman]

51 minutes ago, teef said:

this is another mcd thread...right?

Nailed it!

9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

He disguises them so well.

Some people can't help being pessimistic! It's their nature.  

 

McD has his issue as does Dorsey. He's still got 2x more wins than losses. Players need to execute as well. And during that 3 game span, not many were executing correctly. It's good that they seemed to be waking up. I'd rather things get going in the back half of this season and go with a head of steam into the playoffs. Still think we need to bring in a DT to replace Jones. It makes the rest of the D better if we had a good DT to pair with Oliver. 

[Scott7975]

8 hours ago, PBF81 said:

You don't think we'll end up with a wild-card even? 

 

I think we would be lucky to.  Think about our schedule and what teams have to beat us for us to not win our division. Some of them are the same teams fighting for a wc spot.  Bengals, Chargers, even the Jets are a half game behind us right now lol. If they beat us then they have the head to head.  Then the ones that we don't play, like Pitts and Browns currently have a better conference record.  There are a lot of teams sitting within 1 game of us right now that also won't win their division.

Edited October 30, 2023 by Scott7975

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

54 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Many of your aforementioned individuals do not watch the rest of the league with quite the same frequency that they do the Bills. Sure , some takes in here are measured and reasonable. Many others are over the top with negativity and expect only perfection. They put other teams and staffs on a pedestal and think they can do no wrong. The truth probably lies somewhere in between. Regardless , my point stands. Most NFL observers do not view the Bills as having zero shot in this upcoming game. If you prefer the sentiment that says otherwise , great . Enjoy! 

It seems like when someone is just analyzing the play of their own team, they are comparing to a hypothetically perfect team that can do no wrong and makes no mistakes which leads to a lot of pessimism because we are not even close to that level.  When you benchmark teams against eachother, things start to normalize a bit because no team is perfect.  
 

 Cincy has had a ton of issues this season and their fans have likely been raising the same kinds of complaints over on their board as we are here.  They have been one of the worst teams at running the football, the defense hasn’t been as good as last season, the offense is wildly inconsistent and rarely shows up for 60 minutes 

 

 

Edited October 30, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Billsfan1972]

5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Cherry picking at its highest!  Purdy also had 3 turnovers lol.  But we are focusing on yards because of course you are.  Purdy played terribly.

 

Why do you think SF offense has been struggling the last few weeks?  What’s been missing?

 

How obtuse are you?  Purdy is no Allen and yes he made a # of bad plays but still threw for 365 and 57 rushing, which means Cincy's defense is gettable.

 

I'll take Allen Sunday.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Defense needs the offense this week more than ever.

[Low Positive]

Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

It seems like when someone is just analyzing the play of their own team, they are comparing to a hypothetically perfect team that can do no wrong and makes no mistakes which leads to a lot of pessimism because we are not even close to that level.  When you benchmark teams against eachother, things start to normalize a bit because no team is perfect.  
 

 Cincy has had a ton of issues this season and their fans have likely been raising the same kinds of complaints over on their board as we are here.  

 

 

They complain about play-calling (vanilla offense with no motion), clock management, being overly reliant on Chase, and not being able to run the ball. Sound familiar?