Dalton Kincaid - Khalil Shakir - Elite Hands - YAC

[Charles Romes]

The second you start believing in Shakir he has another soul-crushing drop. 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

That sideline Kincaid catch is elite. He is a pure hands catcher. What we’ve seen from him over of past two games should be his baseline. His ability to make tough catches in traffic, with reliability, is exactly who I thought he could be for this team. I am never expecting him to be a guy that catches a pass and houses it. He’s going to be a short ti intermediate threat to move the chains and get vertical quickly. His roughly 6-70-0.5 is about what I expect on a weekly basis. 
 

If I had one criticism with him in the pass game it’d be that he seems a bit light through contact with the rock in his hands. There has been a few times he’s been right at the sticks and has come up short. I think a year of NFL training could benefit him. 
 

Overall, I am very excited about his future. The baseline is set, but what can he become? 
 

Shakir is JAG who has made some easy catches and got upfield quickly. He blocks well on the perimeter and when mixing it up in the box. He’s a guy that’ll be around through his rookie deal, and no more. We’ll be constantly wondering why the 5th round pick isn’t contributing more…as this thread might suggest he should be…but at the end of the deal, he’s a decent role player on a contending team. That’s his ceiling IMO

[BADOLBILZ]

8 hours ago, SoMAn said:

I like Shakir.
Last year he showed flashes as a rookie. I can’t understand why he’s kept under wraps instead of giving him game experience to develop chemistry with Josh to make the most of his skills. Instead, they bring in Beasley and Brown, then Harty and Sherfield while effectively ignoring the diamond in the rough waiting to be polished. 
 

 

 

Shakir had a terrible camp and preseason.   

 

After his issues with drops when given those chances to play last season.........including that game changing drop in the WC game.........it seems to have taken him a while to earn back chances.

[BananaB]

Always figured Shakir would eventually rise above Sherfield and Harty. He played awesome the other night. 

[billsherd]

2 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:

That’s cool. He was a basketball player before he played football so it makes a lot of sense. Did they announce him? How did the crowd react? And before anyone freaks out, the Bills are off until Monday.

They did announce him and showed his TD as well. He got big cheer from a Toronto crowd.

[Low Positive]

4 minutes ago, billsherd said:

They did announce him and showed his TD as well. He got big cheer from a Toronto crowd.

That’s great. Just builds the fan base. Too bad that that the Raptors lost.

[HappyDays]

One thing I appreciate about both Shakir and Kincaid is their understanding of body control and leverage at the catch point. That ability to catch the ball and immediately start moving to the cleanest window to maximize YAC is impressive, and something that has been sorely lacking from our offense.

[Prospector]

I’m sure it has been mentioned in this thread, but having yelled at my screen multiple times during multiple games… I sure hope Shakir’s elite hands become elite in consistency and reliability. Because he sure drops a lot of noticeable opportunities… like a lot. I loved it when we drafted him, but holy dang, catch the fricken ball on a regular basis!

[BananaB]

5 hours ago, Prospector said:

I’m sure it has been mentioned in this thread, but having yelled at my screen multiple times during multiple games… I sure hope Shakir’s elite hands become elite in consistency and reliability. Because he sure drops a lot of noticeable opportunities… like a lot. I loved it when we drafted him, but holy dang, catch the fricken ball on a regular basis!

He has 14 catches on 15 targets this year, that’s pretty consistent 

[juno999]

I hope they keep throwing the ball to Shakir.  If he sucks like most people think then perhaps the Bills will replace him next year.  If he does well, it will help the Bills win more games.  It makes no sense to have a WR get the amount of snaps he's been getting and not throw the ball to him 5 - 7 times a game.  That lack of involvement just makes it easier for the opposing defense to focus on Diggs, Davis and Kincaid.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

10 hours ago, FrenchConnection said:

And before anyone freaks out, the Bills are off until Monday.

Perfect!  Just the extra time needed to execute a few trades, and conduct a front office and coaching staff purge!

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😉😇

[finn]

Kincaid looks like he might be an increasingly important weapon for the Bills. But next year, watch out. That's when he really might break out. 

[balln]

Kincaid we know has elite traits. And looks impressive immediately as a rookie. He’s closer to kelce in comparison than any other TE in football. It’s really not up for debate

 

now shakir - he reminds me of a more athletic and faster Hines ward. Just big catches for first downs. He catches over the middle. Quick catch and turn upfield. He also had an awesome angry run / yac vs tampa.

 

when we were all B -wording bills/Allen last season for taking deep shots w the underneath stuff wide open for firsts (think Miami playoff game). A lot of those were shakir. Josh just needs to get these other guys the ball more.

[TBBills Fan]

19 hours ago, BillsVet said:

 

2pac did get away, is alive, and gone full Machiavelli now.  

Come with me, hail mary

[NewEra]

11 hours ago, Charles Romes said:

The second you start believing in Shakir he has another soul-crushing drop. 

Throughout his 1 year career

[balln]

11 hours ago, Charles Romes said:

The second you start believing in Shakir he has another soul-crushing drop. 

Diggs drops balls. And also cant complete catches on contested throws…. 

[Charles Romes]

47 minutes ago, finn said:

Kincaid looks like he might be an increasingly important weapon for the Bills. But next year, watch out. That's when he really might break out. 

that’s why Kincaid needs to be absolutely force-fed the next several weeks. So he’s playing like a second year pro this upcoming January. 

[Drew21PA]

Might go a different route that may not be appreciated but

 

ken Dorsey - nice job getting these guys involved and trusting them to get it done!

 

woah - uh oh !!!

 

back to these two I think they were always there but you have to see and give credit to Ken that he changed some things up to implement more weapons while still getting Diggs his meal 

[Thurman#1]

23 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

I think last game showed 11 personnel is the way to go.  Sadly, I think it also showed our 17 million dollar a year tight end isn't the best tight end on our roster.

 

 

Knox's contract is for $13M a year, not $17M. And that's a big deal, the difference between Knox being the 9th highest paid TE in terms of AAV at $13M, vs. the #1 highest, Waller at $17M.

 

I also think last game showed that 11 personnel is the way to go ... against some teams, and at some times. I think there will be plenty of room for 12 personnel going forward after Knox is healthy. But fair enough that it may happen less than they appear to have planned.

 

The Bucs are mostly a man-to-man team. Things might look very different against different defenses.

[Thurman#1]

11 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

 

Overall, I am very excited about his future. The baseline is set, but what can he become? 
 

Shakir is JAG who has made some easy catches and got upfield quickly. He blocks well on the perimeter and when mixing it up in the box. He’s a guy that’ll be around through his rookie deal, and no more. We’ll be constantly wondering why the 5th round pick isn’t contributing more…as this thread might suggest he should be…but at the end of the deal, he’s a decent role player on a contending team. That’s his ceiling IMO

 

 

Why would anyone think Shakir, a 5th rounder who's still early in his second year, is at his ceiling?

 

It's possible. But it's more likely he's got plenty space left before he reaches his ceiling.