Beck Water Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 2 hours ago, AZSanta said: I agree it may be too soon to know anything anyways. I was hoping someone in here may have heard anything that hasn't already been reported. That's actually a possibility. The guy you want is @HappyDays Quote
TheBrownBear Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: McDermott said "medically it was more complex than I would know how to explain, so can I just classify it like the NHL and just call it lower body?" It was reported that Milano didn't have any serious ligament damage other than a potential MCL sprain and McD refused to rule him out for the entire season and left the door open for a return at some point late in the year/playoffs. Neither did he rule out Daquan Jones for the entire season and left the door open on a return for him as well. I missed those quotes from McD. Thanks for sharing. Seems like relatively good news given all the potential outcomes. 1 Quote
krf139 Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Well actually what you state has no bearing whatsoever on the dissemination of his health information, it’s the HIPA laws/regulations that come into play. Just assume he won’t be back till next season, anything earlier is gravy. Why should nfl teams even bother releasing injury reports if any information about player health is private and legally protected information? Edited October 27, 2023 by krf139 2 Quote
Don Otreply Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, krf139 said: Why should nfl teams even bother releasing injury reports if any information about player health is private and legally protected information? A player can allow a statement without actual details, it’s likely contractual to some minor degree, but as an employer the NFL believe it or not has to follow the HIPA rules, 2 Quote
Beck Water Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, krf139 said: Why should nfl teams even bother releasing injury reports if any information about player health is private and legally protected information? I thought the point is to indicate availability for the game, as information for gamblers. So if you know the best DLman didn't practice with a foot injury and is "out" for the game or "doubtful", you can adjust your bets accordingly. But you aren't entitled to know whether he has a turf toe or a lisfranc injury unless the player chooses to disclose it. "Injury spotters" can watch film and hypothesize about the actual injury and its severity, of course. Edited October 27, 2023 by Beck Water 1 Quote
Flipnmi Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Even if there's a 20% chance getting them back by the start of the playoffs, I'd be ecstatic. Fully agree! My fear was that if the ligament damage was a moderate to significant ACL tear, he would likely need to wait for the broken bone to heal before having surgery for the ACL. I'm not a medical professional, but my daughter tore her ACL 3 times. PT in the first weeks after an ACL reconstruction is critical to recovery and I don't know how you do that with a broken leg. If this were the case, this could push the timing for his return well into next season. If it was only a MCL sprain, that would be really great news. Quote
RiotAct Posted October 27, 2023 Posted October 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Doc Brown said: They had to amputate it. He’s six to eight weeks. Pansy! Quote
Marcus Aurelius Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: They had to amputate it. He’s six to eight weeks. There's always a wise guy in the crowd ... 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 5 hours ago, AZSanta said: I'm sure i'm not the only person wondering. If it is unethical to be concerned about a players well being ok. As fan we are emotionally invested in this team and its players. I dont think its asking too much for a a more detailed update. There is nothing wrong with wondering and wanting to know but they are just as entitled to medical privacy as everyone else. Also, a few weeks is nothing. When I had my neck surgery I had some paralysis issues for months. I still have a ton of problems over 2 years later. He is rehabbing. It's going to take time. I doubt this was career ending though. Quote
Bill Lewes Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) I'd guess the players CBA spells out the rules for disclosing injuries, but I don't think HIPAA rules would come into it Edited October 28, 2023 by Bill Lewes Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Doc Brown said: They had to amputate it. He’s six to eight weeks. Yeah I read it's 6 weeks if they can match him with a cadavers leg, 8 weeks if they are forced to use a pigs leg. 2 Quote
Saxum Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Bill Lewes said: I'd guess the players CBA spells out the rules for disclosing injuries, but I don't think HIPAA rules would come into it As someone who has to go thru HIPAA training it applies to employers (Teams) and unions (NFLPA). Quote
DapperCam Posted October 28, 2023 Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: As someone who has to go thru HIPAA training it applies to employers (Teams) and unions (NFLPA). Employers are generally not covered by HIPAA. HIPAA only applies to covered entities like health providers (i.e. doctors/hospitals), and health insurers. The NFL can publish any info they would like if they have the information from the player or health care provider (at least from the perspective of HIPAA). 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: ^ not his real account. I deleted Quote
BUFFALOTONE Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 7:43 PM, Flipnmi said: Fully agree! My fear was that if the ligament damage was a moderate to significant ACL tear, he would likely need to wait for the broken bone to heal before having surgery for the ACL. I'm not a medical professional, but my daughter tore her ACL 3 times. PT in the first weeks after an ACL reconstruction is critical to recovery and I don't know how you do that with a broken leg. If this were the case, this could push the timing for his return well into next season. If it was only a MCL sprain, that would be really great news. He already had surgery if that means anything. Quote
North Buffalo Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 8:56 PM, Bill Lewes said: I'd guess the players CBA spells out the rules for disclosing injuries, but I don't think HIPAA rules would come into it Oh HIPPA definitely does, medical privacy is up to patient and would override any CBA... federal law. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 for what its worth I didnt get the sense that milano or jones are going to be back this season after listening to beane this morning. Quote
Irv Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 Calcium deposit on his Medulla Oblongata. Return in doubt. 1 Quote
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