The Big Lie we were fed that McDermott is a disciplined, prepared, hard worker

[HomeskillitMoorman]

The proof is in the pudding on how untrue all of this has always been. Being good at game and time management is all about hard work and preparation. Same with being composed in big moments and at the end of games and your players understanding end of game situations. 

 

This guy still makes the same exact mistakes he did in his rookie head coach season from 6 years ago. He literally hasn't learned a thing. Our players are clueless and undisciplined in big moments in the game. Look at last night's Hail Mary. It's not like we've been burned before on those in McD's tenure. It shouldn't even take that because a  good head coach prepares for situations that they haven't even been burned by. With 13 seconds, I found it absurd that people were giving him the excuse of that being a learning experience when any head coach at any level should know what to do there. I'm not sure anything would even change if we were in that situation again given what we've seen from these other scenarios. 

 

The scapegoating of other coaches has also been the mantra of McD's apologists. It was Frazier that was too soft and conservative with "his" defense...McD is the head coach. He has YEARS to change anything he didn't like about what was supposedly Frazier's defense or replace him or take over himself. The fact is it's HIS defense because it's HIS team. It's the same with the offense. We keep seeing these shotgun runs on goaline situations that are repeated disasters. Yes Dorsey is a big problem...but who is letting him be that? McD hears those playcalls and is on the line, he can interject anytime he wants to. He is NOT a helpless bystander. It's HIS team. If he can't handle all of that, then guess what, that means he can't handle all of the responsibilities of a Head Coach. 

 

The majority of coaches in this league could have won the last few years with the talent we've had. The good ones probably could have won a SB. We still have a guy that after all these years still craps his pants and takes these horrible defensive timeouts when the opposition's offense is scrambling to get the next play off as time is winding down to give them time to compose themselves. That happens because again he is completely unprepared for those moments in the game.  Preparation takes discipline and hard work. 

 

I remember during this whole regime all of these propaganda articles about how disciplined, gritty, and hard working this guy is. What an absolute joke. A hard worker would show a significant amount of improvement as a coach throughout all of these years. I agree with people that Andy Reid didn't work hard to improve his time and game management skills either. But the comparisons to him are ridiculous too when Reid went to what, 4 NFC championships and a Superbowl in his first 6 years?? With a lesser QB. What are we even talking about here? 

 

I'm glad a growing number of people here are actually willing to see this right now rather than just blindly defending him like what's been going on for years here. When does the "he'll learn from this" excuse for the same mistakes over and over and over expire? In year 10? Year 20? 

 

I hope there's some kind of miracle and he somehow "gets it", but when he hasn't done a thing to put in the slightest bit of work to improve himself over the last 6 years, it's hard to believe it's going to happen mid-season. I hope the talent wins out enough for us to compete...but sadly we're not winning a SB with this guy now or ever. 

[Big Turk]

Uh no.  Unprepared coaches don't have the highest winning percentage in the NFL since 2020.  Way too long of a sample size to not get exposed.  Honestly, just a silly(idiotic maybe even?) take.

Edited October 27, 2023 by Big Turk

[Mango]

The board is full of a lot of repetitive threads these days. The mods have to be overwhelmed. 

This is just a very long winded thought that could be in like 5-6 different threads that already exist. 

Edited October 27, 2023 by Mango

[Aussie Joe]

I got no idea if he is a hard worker or not …but ..

 

They had to go down to the wire on a game they absolutely dominated …again..

 

There is something wrong with this team…

 

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

You just used a lot of words to basically say "I have no clue".

[GoBills808]

No idea about how hard he works, my issue w McDermott is that he doesn't appear to be very bright

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

I got no idea if he is a hard worker or not …but ..

 

They had to go down to the wire on a game they absolutely dominated …again..

 

There is something wrong with this team…

 

 

 

Actually the only reason you think  that way is because the Bills have blown teams out with such regularity over the last 3 years and averaged a double digit win every single game over that timeframe in terms of net point differential that we expect it.  But that isn't how 31 other teams live in the NFL.  

 

This is the equivalent of a super rich person wondering how people can live in houses under 7,000 square feet, do their own cleaning, laundry and gardening and have to drive themselves all over town instead of having a personal driver to take them wherever they want to go.

 

It just isn't the norm.  

[EasternOHBillsFan]

So if I'm not blindly defending him but totally disagreeing with your premise that he's undisciplined, not prepared, and not a hard worker, what does that make me? 😂 

[Bray Wyatt]

TLDR, based on other replys, glad I didnt

[Mango]

5 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Uh no.  Unprepared coaches don't have the highest winning percentage in the NFL since 2020.  Way too long of a sample size to not get exposed.  Honestly, just a silly take.

 

Maybe it was the late night Hayburners yesterday, but I am a bit taken aback by how negative the board was last night. 

I am critical of a lot, and participate in a ton of negative threads/conversations, but the team was a lot better at a good chunk of the last few weeks criticisms. Definitely some moments I would like back, especially the goal line play calls. But we can win a few games with the way we played last night. Last night was the kind of game/team that if they can get hot, they can go on a run in January. 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

8 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Uh no.  Unprepared coaches don't have the highest winning percentage in the NFL since 2020.  Way too long of a sample size to not get exposed.  Honestly, just a silly take.

 

When you're cherry picking and removing 3 of his seasons and not talking about his postseason woes, sure. And a loaded roster can absolutely mask a head coach's shortcomings. You can only take that so far though as you've seen. 

[Royale with Cheese]

I am so confused by this board.

 

On one end, Beane sucks and don't have much talent on the roster because of his drafting.  

On the other end, McDermott sucks because he has a lot of talent and haven't won it.  

Edited October 27, 2023 by Royale with Cheese

[SCBills]

I’m not a huge McDermott guy, but his defense gave up two TD’s. 
 

One on a quick change short field.  
 

One that was, perhaps, the flukiest drive I’ve EVER seen.

 

Poyer coming down at LB in passing downs looks like a really interesting development moving forward.

 

Im pretty confident McDermott doesn’t punt over and over against an offense that poses a bigger threat.

 

He called a beautiful overload blitz to end the game and preserve a comfortable 14 point win.   
 

Phillips grabbed Baker’s face mask for no reason and then the ball bounced off Benford for a TD and Phillips for a 2 point conversion. 
 

Players were put in position to end the game, and didn’t.   So we had to sweat it out.  

[I'm Spartacus]

8 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Uh no.  Unprepared coaches don't have the highest winning percentage in the NFL since 2020.  Way too long of a sample size to not get exposed.  Honestly, just a silly take.

I don't care about percentage winning, etc. McDermott seems to crap the bed against the higer echelon teams, and has poor in game management skills. Not impressed.

[HomeskillitMoorman]

4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

No idea about how hard he works, my issue w McDermott is that he doesn't appear to be very bright

 

Even a guy who's not overly bright should be able to learn from the same mistakes over a 6 year period though shouldn't he?

[GoBills808]

Just now, Mango said:

 

Maybe it was the late night Hayburners yesterday, but I am a bit taken aback by how negative the board was last night. 

I am critical of a lot, and participate in a ton of negative threads/conversations, but the team was a lot better at a good chunk of the last few weeks criticisms. Definitely some moments I would like back, especially the goal line play calls. But we can win a few games with the way we played last night. Last night was the kind of game/team that if they can get hot, they can go on a run in January. 

😂😂 You're always going on about how Allen lost focus, is lazy, etc etc

 

I don't think it's so far fetched that it's actually McDermott who isn't (or can't) putting in the necessary work

[BullBuchanan]

37 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Uh no.  Unprepared coaches don't have the highest winning percentage in the NFL since 2020.  Way too long of a sample size to not get exposed.  Honestly, just a silly take.

When you have a top QB in what was an extremely weak division for the last few years, numbers will skew in your favor.

Mike Smith has a higher career winning percentage than Bill Parcells, Kyle Shanahan, Doug Pederson, Jimmy Johnson, Marv Levy and a bunch of guys with gold jackets. If you ever watched his teams play, I think you'd know that had a lot more to do with Matt Ryan, Roddy White, Julio Jones and others than it did with his football acumen.

P.S. He also has 5 more losses than Reid since 2020, and that isn't changing any time soon.

Edited October 27, 2023 by BullBuchanan

[HomeskillitMoorman]

5 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

So if I'm not blindly defending him but totally disagreeing with your premise that he's undisciplined, not prepared, and not a hard worker, what does that make me? 😂 

 

Sounds like you might be able to make a good argument then, I'd love to hear it. 

[Beck Water]

8 minutes ago, Mango said:

The board is full of a lot of repetitive threads these days. The mods have to be overwhelmed. 

This is just a very long winded thought that could be in like 5-6 different threads that already exist. 

 

The current board philosophy is members should start whatever threads they want within very broad guidelines, and how many people choose to respond will select which threads are worthy and stay on the front page, and which fall off

 

Personally, I think when the front page is littered with
"The Big Lie we were fed that McDermott is a disciplined, prepared, hard worker"

"Why is this team, and staff, so dumb?"

"Sean McDermott is a stupid coach"

"Fitzpatrick's veiled criticism of Dorsey?"

"The Official Fire Ken Dorsey Thread"

etc

 

it might be time for a bit of pruning because I think when there's too much idiocracy, it drives a number of contributing, smart posters to step out. 

 

But that's just my opinion, and it's not the current SOP.

[Mango]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

😂😂 You're always going on about how Allen lost focus, is lazy, etc etc

 

I don't think it's so far fetched that it's actually McDermott who isn't (or can't) putting in the necessary work

 

Just to clarify, I don't think Josh is lazy, I think that he could be better with some of his prep. I think there is a difference even if nuanced. Jamarcus Russel and Johnny Menzel were lazy and unfocused. That is certainly not Josh Allen.