I’m sick of the defensive timeouts…

[eball]

This one aspect of McD’s coaching, in particular, is infuriating.  Last night he did it again, multiple times, and all it does is give the offense a chance to regroup and strategize.  Why aren’t the Bills practicing these situations during the week so they know what to do when the moment arrives?

 

Last night McD had a terrible 4th quarter.

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I would love them if they worked. I feel like every time he calls timeout before a play it gives the opposing coach a chance to out-coach him. 

[SydneyBillsFan]

Yeah, it was brilliant of him to call his final one at the start of the Bucs drive - as opposed to keeping it up your sleeve if they get near or over the 50 - which they did.

 

Puke.

 

 

[HoofHearted]

16 minutes ago, eball said:

This one aspect of McD’s coaching, in particular, is infuriating.  Last night he did it again, multiple times, and all it does is give the offense a chance to regroup and strategize.  Why aren’t the Bills practicing these situations during the week so they know what to do when the moment arrives?

 

Last night McD had a terrible 4th quarter.

 

Timeouts are for defense. Gives them a chance to regroup as well and get quick reminders about situational play. Playbooks are limited in these situations offensively so the time is used to remind players about what they’ll get out of the few looks they’ll see.

[FireChans]

57 minutes ago, eball said:

This one aspect of McD’s coaching, in particular, is infuriating.  Last night he did it again, multiple times, and all it does is give the offense a chance to regroup and strategize.  Why aren’t the Bills practicing these situations during the week so they know what to do when the moment arrives?

 

Last night McD had a terrible 4th quarter.

 

Are people really upset with our 5-3 Bills?

[section122]

30 minutes ago, eball said:

infuriating

 

I really want a reporter to do the leg work of how many times it has burned the Bills.  It seems like every time he calls one it does nothing for the defense and everything for the offense! 

[nucci]

59 minutes ago, eball said:

This one aspect of McD’s coaching, in particular, is infuriating.  Last night he did it again, multiple times, and all it does is give the offense a chance to regroup and strategize.  Why aren’t the Bills practicing these situations during the week so they know what to do when the moment arrives?

 

Last night McD had a terrible 4th quarter.

 

He allowed Tampa to set up while they were rushing. I didn't get that timeout. made no sense

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Are people really upset with our 5-3 Bills?

we're upset at a lot of things that happened during the game. That's normal even when you win

[MarkyMannn]

I was sick of the offensive line up, let's not run a play, try to get the D to jump offside. Like that works once a year

[Shortchaz]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Are people really upset with our 5-3 Bills?

I think the underperforming is what’s upsetting. Multiple games now where we are clearly superior in talent yet we’re in a dog fight/lose. But, it’s the nfl so this is how it goes. 

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, nucci said:

He allowed Tampa to set up while they were rushing. I didn't get that timeout. made no sense

we're upset at a lot of things that happened during the game. That's normal even when you win

 

Just now, Shortchaz said:

I think the underperforming is what’s upsetting. Multiple games now where we are clearly superior in talent yet we’re in a dog fight/lose. But, it’s the nfl so this is how it goes. 

I just don't know what to make of this board and our fans these days.  To the uninformed observer, if you just looked at the threads on the first page you'd assume this was a bottom-feeding squad. 

[nucci]

Just now, FireChans said:

 

I just don't know what to make of this board and our fans these days.  To the uninformed observer, if you just looked at the threads on the first page you'd assume this was a bottom-feeding squad. 

So every win is perfect and we can't question anything? That was a poorly played and coached 4th qtr in a game that shouldn't have been close . 

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, MarkyMannn said:

I was sick of the offensive line up, let's not run a play, try to get the D to jump offside. Like that works once a year

Here’s the question:  what’s the downside of doing this?  
 

Regarding the game-  there is no downside.  Zero.  Every time we DON’T do this is a wasted opportunity.  Sure, the chances are slim….but the chances are ZERO if we just line up and punt. Slim chance > zero chance.  This also could help us convert a first in future if/when we do decide to go for it.  Every team has to realize by now that McD has a tendency to try and draw offside more than most teams.  Realizing this could eventually backfire if/when we actually do go for it 
 

as fans, the downside is….it’s 2023 and everyone is impatient.  We have to wait an extra minute or so til we punt.  

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, nucci said:

So every win is perfect and we can't question anything? That was a poorly played and coached 4th qtr in a game that shouldn't have been close . 

 

Nobody ever won the Super Bowl in October, and history is replete with scads of teams that looked "unbeatable" at this juncture and didn't lift the Lombardi.

[Shortchaz]

The loss to the jets set the tone for the season 🤣. I mean if we’re 6-2 it’s probably a different atmosphere. 

[GunnerBill]

I didn't like the timeout before 4th down. However, most of our fans have zero clue about timeour strategy. He was getting questioned in the GDT for the end of first half timeout which he played perfectly. 

 

I also get that the number say go for the 4th downs. But the only reason this got close was stupidity by individual defensive players - namely Johnson and Phillips. The Bills stopped Tampa twice. 

 

I think we did get a bit conservative in the 4th quarter but it wasn't on 4th down calls it was on playcalling. Dorsey stopped attacking. 

[Tommy Callahan]

I hated the one before halftime.  but thinking back. Maybe it made them rethink trying it as if the FG missed, the bills get great field position.  So, they punted.  

 

Machavalian?

 

 

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, FireChans said:

 

I just don't know what to make of this board and our fans these days.  To the uninformed observer, if you just looked at the threads on the first page you'd assume this was a bottom-feeding squad. 

A couple firsts tonight!  

-Kincaids first TD (.5 yard from 2 TDs and a tipped pass away from 3)

 

-me applauding you for not being “that guy”. 👍🏻 

 

[Wizard]

Bottom-feeding?  No. The new and realistic expectation is to compete for a title though.

 

Poor game management, play calling, lack of utilizing players, and major inconsistencies on both sides of the ball is what is frustrating.

 

Sure, we are an above average team and likely playoff bound; however, the last 4 weeks is looking like a pattern that is going to hinder any realistic shot at being s contender in the end.

 

 

[BuffaloRebound]

18 minutes ago, FireChans said:

 

I just don't know what to make of this board and our fans these days.  To the uninformed observer, if you just looked at the threads on the first page you'd assume this was a bottom-feeding squad. 

c’mon.  there are some overboard takes but you’re not concerned that we played great on both sides of ball for 3 quarters and still almost puked the game away to a mediocre team with a semi-hobbled QB?  Especially with Mcdermott’s 13 second past? 

Edited October 27, 2023 by BuffaloRebound

[FireChans]

7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

A couple firsts tonight!  

-Kincaids first TD (.5 yard from 2 TDs and a tipped pass away from 3)

 

-me applauding you for not being “that guy”. 👍🏻 

 

Is everything perfect?  Of course not!  But it never is, and crucifying Dorsey on October 27-- 4 weeks after he was called brilliant for his gameplan vs. Miami -- is the perfect lens through which to view Bills fans.

2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

c’mon.  there are some overboard takes but you’re not concerned that we played great on both sides of ball for 3 quarters and still almost puked the game away to a mediocre team with a semi-hobbled QB?  Especially with Mcdermott’s 13 second past? 

"But it's a fan message board.  That's what we do."

 

Ok.  You be you.  I'll continue to look at what is going right, share my opinions in an upbeat way, and show some faith in the players and coaches to work on what they need to work on.  This can still be a very special season; the league is wide open.