billsfan714 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Von is a situational pass rusher at this point. A well-paid one. To be considered a pass rusher, I would think you would have a sack on your season stats. 1 1 1 Quote
RiotAct Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 so trying to be objective and not snarky, the one time I noticed Von hurrying Russ out of the pocket today (1st quarter I think?), he looked so indecisive. Instead of either: — Going in for the kill, OR — Throwing his hands up to try to tip the pass, He did neither and just kind of hesitated, allowing RW to unleash a pass from near the boundary. Awful. SHUT HIM DOWN PLEASE. THANKS. Quote
Norcalbillsfan Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 He is 100% hurting the team when he's on the feild. He's not just contributing nothing, he's a negative on the feild. Unfortunately bills have to win and they can't afford to get him up to speed with reps 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 43 minutes ago, RiotAct said: so trying to be objective and not snarky, the one time I noticed Von hurrying Russ out of the pocket today (1st quarter I think?), he looked so indecisive. Instead of either: — Going in for the kill, OR — Throwing his hands up to try to tip the pass, He did neither and just kind of hesitated, allowing RW to unleash a pass from near the boundary. Awful. SHUT HIM DOWN PLEASE. THANKS. He actually made a tackle tonight! I couldn't believe it. He's basically a zero on the field, a total non-factor. I wonder if his career is straight up done, as is Tre White's and almost certainly Hyde's. Don't be surprised when Hyde never plays another snap in the NFL. This team is going to have a LOT of changes to make, and those HORRIFIC Von Miller and Knox contracts are going to kill our ability to make those changes. Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 It takes some time to come back from that injury and at 34 he probably never will. It is what it is. Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: He actually made a tackle tonight! I couldn't believe it. He's basically a zero on the field, a total non-factor. I wonder if his career is straight up done, as is Tre White's and almost certainly Hyde's. Don't be surprised when Hyde never plays another snap in the NFL. This team is going to have a LOT of changes to make, and those HORRIFIC Von Miller and Knox contracts are going to kill our ability to make those changes. At least Tre White ain't on the field! Von Miller is! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: It takes some time to come back from that injury and at 34 he probably never will. It is what it is. As great as the Allen lottery was, Beane almost ***** that up just as bad with the Von Miller contract as almost a wash its soo bad Edited November 14, 2023 by Gunsgoodtime Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: As great as the Allen lottery was, Beane almost ***** that up just as bad on the Von Miller contract I’m not mad at Beane for the Miller contract. I’m mad he was too afraid to send a draft pick for Miller in 2021 when we needed him on a Super Bowl caliber team. Even worse he admitted that the reason he wouldn’t do it was because he didn’t know if he could sign him. Beane doesn’t get enough heat for that. Edited November 14, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 2 Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I’m not mad at Beane for the Miller contract. I’m mad he was too afraid to send a draft pick for Miller in 2021 when we needed him on a Super Bowl caliber team. Even worse he admitted that the reason he wouldn’t do it was because he didn’t know if he could sign him. Beane doesn’t get enough heat for that. My additional problem to this, Beane had spent multiple high end draft picks, cap dollars to the defense only to have to sign a 100$m old guy to cover up for the drafting failures Quote
BillMafia716ix Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Only played 21 snaps tonight. He’s clearly not 100% shut him down and get him fully healthy for next season. Give his snaps to Epenesa Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, billsfan714 said: To be considered a pass rusher, I would think you would have a sack on your season stats. One has to start with a tackle first, it's like a baby crawling before they walk. It's coming, that sack is coming in a year! 2 Quote
Freak-O Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Didn’t look like we was giving 100%. Compare his effort level with that of Epenesa or Groot and there is a big difference. 1 Quote
CSBill Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Time to shut him down. Jonathan Kingsley gives way more effort, and better results. Edited November 14, 2023 by CSBill 1 Quote
Irv Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Freak-O said: Didn’t look like we was giving 100%. Compare his effort level with that of Epenesa or Groot and there is a big difference. Agree. Wilson got flushed from the pocket and Miller just stopped chasing him. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 He’s gonna go off when the cast comes off and it’ll be too late. We need a miraculous 3-1 record in the next 4 to have a chance Quote
Your Brown Eye Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Maybe Miller's "F*** that, burn it all" video was really about what was going to happen to the team after he arrived? Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Invisible yet again. so glad we are locking into him for at least another year Quote
SectionC3 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Invisible yet again. so glad we are locking into him for at least another year Maybe he can be a June 1 cut. It’s ugly. Good guy, good leader. But washed. Quote
MAJBobby Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Maybe he can be a June 1 cut. It’s ugly. Good guy, good leader. But washed. Yeah he can be. Won’t be though just watch. I am almost willing to bet they use his base for cap space and kick the can down the road. will say well he was never fully healthy. Quote
SectionC3 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, MAJBobby said: Yeah he can be. Won’t be though just watch. I am almost willing to bet they use his base for cap space and kick the can down the road. will say well he was never fully healthy. It’s probably true, but the big issue for me is the likelihood that a 35 yo pass rusher is going go recover from that injury and want to be here for what at this point looks like a retooling year next year. On that latter issue, I believe that the pieces are there to do this quickly, but the defense is going to have to be young next year. Quote
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